OGCA - They're worse at a gun show than on the highway

I do my internet homework on pricing of guns I want at home every week. I don't have to check anything about pricing when I attend a gun show. I already know the value of all the models I have an interest in.
 
cowart said:
There must be more to it than that - I have access to the cell phone account of a 22 year old female who has no parents left. For the months of February and March respectively she shows 5,139 and 4,622 text messages.

I almost always text her instead of calling her because she is almost always too busy to immediately answer a voice call.
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A 22 year old is hardly a young teenager or pre teen.
I still maintain most texts by kids are mindless drivel or used to keep the parents out of the loop.
 
I started texting with my kids ten years ago as it was a good way to keep tabs on them.I use it far more than calling now.It's fast,to the point and private.
 
Snakeshift said:
You must be under 40 years old, as am I. To be honest I'm the only 24 year old I know who doesn't own a Cell Phone.

I bailed out on technology when Facebook and Google became two of the most profitable companies in the USA.

Sure, texting/smart phones have their uses... but they also have their faults.

Cell/Smart Phone free since 2006.
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ok guys i didnt mean to come off like a troll, i reread my post and it was badly written, i apoligize for my rude behavior and will check myself in the future.
snake shift,
i am 43 years old .why did f.b. and google becoming successful distress you?when you say you "bailed on technology" you obviously dont mean your computer...what search engine do you use since you wont use google?
what are the faults of texting?
so you were 18 years old when you stopped carrying a cell? good on you! my 18 year old son would have fits if he lost his phone. so would i, as much of my business(construction) and personal communication is done with a cell.
what line of work are you in?
 
The fault of texting isn' the texting itsself, its where you do it. No one would care if the texter went to the bathroom or to the lunch area, got out of doorways and crowded aisles, or even just kept on moving. No one cares how you get carpel tunnel as long as you're not in the way of everyone else. But we know the self centered who text insist on doing it while being in the way. I guess so all the rest of us can see how cool they really are.

Years ago many gun show go-ers developed the art of jostling folks who just stand in the way, on purpose. Its not really bumping into them, but sometimes there is no other way to get around them. The worst offenders were wives of guys who wanted to look. They weren't interested enough to get out of the way and stand next to him and look too. They wanted him to get moving because they were bored. Often with kids. And sometimes with strollers, taking up the entire aisle. Those with particularly large bottoms really choked the flow of traffic. And they felt no remorse, feeling the problem was their hubby who paid $10 to get into the show and then refused to keep moving, instead actually looking at something. My guess is they also had a fear the guy might actually purchase something and there goes the next 5 pairs of shoes.

One of the past times of table holders is watching the crowd. Sure, we talk with each other, and also with the customers who stop to talk. But often you have from a minute to a half hour of dead time (then you get swamped for the next hour). Sad as it may seem, we only rarely get a good table location. We're out with the unwashed masses where the promoter feels good about squishing the tables together and leaving very small aisles to pass in. To him its money. But then the wife comes along an simply must stand directly behind him, causing unbelievable traffic snarls. Once in a while you hear a husband who's had enough of it tell his wifey to go stand by the door if she can't stay out of the way.

So now we have this new pestilence upon the land, texters. It was probably predictable that they'd exhibit the same skills in a crowded room they learned out on the interstates. The most important thing is ignoring all outside influences and pound the keys. No one else has any importance, and its their right to be in the way, unmoving. I see a clash coming in the future.

OGCA won't even allow folks to rest at the end of the aisles, the only place they leave adequate room to pass someone. At many of the shows they put someone in charge of the PA system who hates loitering. They actually demand no one stand along the front wall. I would guess they're afraid of hookers or muggers getting into the building. It results in them clogging the aisles where others want to move and see things.

In many restaurants a growing number of people want jammers so those super important folks can't talk at full volume during meals. Of course the talk is just chit-chat. But few of those have any idea they're broadcasting their little discussion to everyone for 20 or so feet in any direction. One time in a restaurant a girl was having a pretty personal talk with a girlfriend and said something pretty embarrassing. About half the place broke up laughing. When she realized we were laughing at her she got really mad. At least the texters are quiet in their rudeness.

At a huge show the size of OGCA, you get bumped maybe 20 to 30 times a day. I assume its not intentional, it just happens. On occasion you find a person who has less crowd walking skills than is normal. Those folks get bumped constantly and some get a little upset. Except they're the ones who move right in the way of a flowing stream of people. If the stream is flowing and you want to stop, step out of it! When you want back in, look first. If you're texting and take a step in any direction, expect to get bumped. If you're motionless, blocking some poor guys table, sooner or later a bona fide customer will want to look at something right in front of you. If you're not all consumed with the screen and looking, it might be different. But the texters are all just taking up space. Oh how I wish I had a portable jammer. One that would allow me to kill the signals of the idiot in front of me. Walking and on the road.
 
rburg said:
The fault of texting isn' the texting itsself, its where you do it. No one would care if the texter went to the bathroom or to the lunch area, got out of doorways and crowded aisles, or even just kept on moving. No one cares how you get carpel tunnel as long as you're not in the way of everyone else. But we know the self centered who text insist on doing it while being in the way. I guess so all the rest of us can see how cool they really are.

Years ago many gun show go-ers developed the art of jostling folks who just stand in the way, on purpose. Its not really bumping into them, but sometimes there is no other way to get around them. The worst offenders were wives of guys who wanted to look. They weren't interested enough to get out of the way and stand next to him and look too. They wanted him to get moving because they were bored. Often with kids. And sometimes with strollers, taking up the entire aisle. Those with particularly large bottoms really choked the flow of traffic. And they felt no remorse, feeling the problem was their hubby who paid $10 to get into the show and then refused to keep moving, instead actually looking at something. My guess is they also had a fear the guy might actually purchase something and there goes the next 5 pairs of shoes.

One of the past times of table holders is watching the crowd. Sure, we talk with each other, and also with the customers who stop to talk. But often you have from a minute to a half hour of dead time (then you get swamped for the next hour). Sad as it may seem, we only rarely get a good table location. We're out with the unwashed masses where the promoter feels good about squishing the tables together and leaving very small aisles to pass in. To him its money. But then the wife comes along an simply must stand directly behind him, causing unbelievable traffic snarls. Once in a while you hear a husband who's had enough of it tell his wifey to go stand by the door if she can't stay out of the way.

So now we have this new pestilence upon the land, texters. It was probably predictable that they'd exhibit the same skills in a crowded room they learned out on the interstates. The most important thing is ignoring all outside influences and pound the keys. No one else has any importance, and its their right to be in the way, unmoving. I see a clash coming in the future.

OGCA won't even allow folks to rest at the end of the aisles, the only place they leave adequate room to pass someone. At many of the shows they put someone in charge of the PA system who hates loitering. They actually demand no one stand along the front wall. I would guess they're afraid of hookers or muggers getting into the building. It results in them clogging the aisles where others want to move and see things.

In many restaurants a growing number of people want jammers so those super important folks can't talk at full volume during meals. Of course the talk is just chit-chat. But few of those have any idea they're broadcasting their little discussion to everyone for 20 or so feet in any direction. One time in a restaurant a girl was having a pretty personal talk with a girlfriend and said something pretty embarrassing. About half the place broke up laughing. When she realized we were laughing at her she got really mad. At least the texters are quiet in their rudeness.

At a huge show the size of OGCA, you get bumped maybe 20 to 30 times a day. I assume its not intentional, it just happens. On occasion you find a person who has less crowd walking skills than is normal. Those folks get bumped constantly and some get a little upset. Except they're the ones who move right in the way of a flowing stream of people. If the stream is flowing and you want to stop, step out of it! When you want back in, look first. If you're texting and take a step in any direction, expect to get bumped. If you're motionless, blocking some poor guys table, sooner or later a bona fide customer will want to look at something right in front of you. If you're not all consumed with the screen and looking, it might be different. But the texters are all just taking up space. Oh how I wish I had a portable jammer. One that would allow me to kill the signals of the idiot in front of me. Walking and on the road.
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Ha-ha! Very eloquently and I might add, sardonically put, Dick :)

My real pet peeve are the self absorbed joggers, not the texters, though. They come up behind you on the sidewalk with enough traffic noise that it makes it impossible to hear their footfalls and don't have the courtesy to warn you. I took one to the ground a few years back he scared me so bad. I was walking down the road at night to check my boat and suddenly I hear heavy footfalls and panting, and almost feel this guy's breath on my neck. He didn't give me a wide berth and just about brushed me. I thought somebody was going to mug me. I grabbed and pivoted him on my left hip and pushed him down and cut his legs out from under him and he hit the pavement. Nothing but scratches. I was mad, he was mad, but I told him you need to realize that walkers on high traffic streets can't hear you coming up behind them, and that the sidewalks are not for their exclusive use, they must be shared with all pedestrians. God forbid it would take a few seconds off their jogging time to let a person know they are there. * This was awhile back, so it took some time to remember. I actually grabbed him by his "hoodie" and pushed my left hip out and his momentum carried him to the ground. I'm no martial artist and I'm somewhat clumsy, it just happened to work out. I felt bad but I was pumped and still scared and angry with him.
Just last week Gunny (my German Shepherd and avatar) and I were walking down the sidewalk of the road and state route bordering the river across from Harrisburg. When we entered the road from a side street I looked up and down the sidewalk both ways to see if there was anybody on the sidewalks. None. A minute later I just happened to glance back and there's a 30ish jogger about 30 yds. behind me. I got Gunny out of his path and gave a command to "wait". The guy goes by and nods thanks. I said back to him you need to let people know you are sneaking up on them, he shrugs and says "I have a dog, too"! I said it has nothing to do with the dog (even though he's very protective and may have attacked him being surprised that way) it's just common courtesy and you have to share the sidewalks.
When I used to bike and run a lot, I always let the pedestrians know I was coming up on them from behind. It seemed like common sense and common courtesy to do so.
 
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I text at gun shows all the time. Most of my buddies are to lazy to go with me so they just tell me "hey if you see something you think I like let me know" I know they'll pay me back so I dont care but here's the problem with talking on the phone at the shows.
1) Sometimes the signal is poor and while a text will go through a conversation is is garbled.
2) A lot of dealers think you're doing a straw purchase because you're telling a friend "Hey this guy has your mags". Even though mags or ammo are not considered straw purchases. Sometimes Ill ask "My friend is looking for this do you mind if I call him to let him know?"

3) Its easier to write "9mm $5/box y/n" then to wait for the phone to ring and start a 5 min conversation beginning with Hi Im at....
 
Malysh said:
It seemed like common sense and common courtesy to do so.
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There's your mistake ! Common sense is no longer common and neither is common courtesy. Just what were you thinking ? . . . :rolleyes: :p
 
cowart said:
There must be more to it than that - I have access to the cell phone account of a 22 year old female who has no parents left. For the months of February and March respectively she shows 5,139 and 4,622 text messages.

I almost always text her instead of calling her because she is almost always too busy to immediately answer a voice call.
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For February, if my math is correct, that is one text message a little less than every eight minutes, twenty-four hours per day. She did a little better in March; one text every ten minutes, again, twenty-four hours per day. I should say she is busy! She's busy texting. I'm glad I don't have to pay that cell bill.

Russ
 
Muddyboot said:
I think that is the work of Sam Kenimuchi, who did the engraving for Ken Eyster.
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Thanks, I was trying to remember the engravers name. I grew up a few miles south of Mr. Eysters shop and visited often. I bought my second new firearms, a BL22 and my first English sxs from him. He gave me a tour of his shop once which surprised me. He had a reputation for being a little moody and I was only 18 at the time. Though I later figured out his moods were in direct relationship to how many stupid questions he'd answered that day.
 
No texting here. I dont know how, and dont wanna learn how. :D I find it difficult enough to talk into an Dick Tracy gadget that is smaller than the palm of my hand.
 
kamloops67 said:
this will probably fall on deaf old ears that can learn nothing new,but texting has its place and is popular for a reason.
i agree there is an ettiquette that is often ignored ,texting while driving is dangerous etc.,but for quick and efficient communication ,nothing can beat texting.
there is no small talk, or pointless babbling before getting to the point .how often are you annoyed by a call that comes at a "bad moment"? with a text message you read it when you are ready and reply if and when you want.
how many of you with cell phones had no use for them 10 years ago?
how many of you reading the computer monitor now, had no use for computers 15 years ago?
try it you might like it.
im gonna go mow my lawn now ...with one of them newfangled gas power mowers
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I'm past 70. I think cell phones are just great. You don't HAVE to turn them on. That solves that getting a call while driving, or bad moment problem.


P.S. Them gas mowers will never catch on. They haven't got the torque or reliability of steam.
 
rburg said:
The fault of texting isn' the texting itsself, its where you do it. No one would care if the texter went to the bathroom or to the lunch area, got out of doorways and crowded aisles, or even just kept on moving. No one cares how you get carpel tunnel as long as you're not in the way of everyone else. But we know the self centered who text insist on doing it while being in the way. I guess so all the rest of us can see how cool they really are.

Years ago many gun show go-ers developed the art of jostling folks who just stand in the way, on purpose. Its not really bumping into them, but sometimes there is no other way to get around them. The worst offenders were wives of guys who wanted to look. They weren't interested enough to get out of the way and stand next to him and look too. They wanted him to get moving because they were bored. Often with kids. And sometimes with strollers, taking up the entire aisle. Those with particularly large bottoms really choked the flow of traffic. And they felt no remorse, feeling the problem was their hubby who paid $10 to get into the show and then refused to keep moving, instead actually looking at something. My guess is they also had a fear the guy might actually purchase something and there goes the next 5 pairs of shoes.

One of the past times of table holders is watching the crowd. Sure, we talk with each other, and also with the customers who stop to talk. But often you have from a minute to a half hour of dead time (then you get swamped for the next hour). Sad as it may seem, we only rarely get a good table location. We're out with the unwashed masses where the promoter feels good about squishing the tables together and leaving very small aisles to pass in. To him its money. But then the wife comes along an simply must stand directly behind him, causing unbelievable traffic snarls. Once in a while you hear a husband who's had enough of it tell his wifey to go stand by the door if she can't stay out of the way.

So now we have this new pestilence upon the land, texters. It was probably predictable that they'd exhibit the same skills in a crowded room they learned out on the interstates. The most important thing is ignoring all outside influences and pound the keys. No one else has any importance, and its their right to be in the way, unmoving. I see a clash coming in the future.

OGCA won't even allow folks to rest at the end of the aisles, the only place they leave adequate room to pass someone. At many of the shows they put someone in charge of the PA system who hates loitering. They actually demand no one stand along the front wall. I would guess they're afraid of hookers or muggers getting into the building. It results in them clogging the aisles where others want to move and see things.

In many restaurants a growing number of people want jammers so those super important folks can't talk at full volume during meals. Of course the talk is just chit-chat. But few of those have any idea they're broadcasting their little discussion to everyone for 20 or so feet in any direction. One time in a restaurant a girl was having a pretty personal talk with a girlfriend and said something pretty embarrassing. About half the place broke up laughing. When she realized we were laughing at her she got really mad. At least the texters are quiet in their rudeness.

At a huge show the size of OGCA, you get bumped maybe 20 to 30 times a day. I assume its not intentional, it just happens. On occasion you find a person who has less crowd walking skills than is normal. Those folks get bumped constantly and some get a little upset. Except they're the ones who move right in the way of a flowing stream of people. If the stream is flowing and you want to stop, step out of it! When you want back in, look first. If you're texting and take a step in any direction, expect to get bumped. If you're motionless, blocking some poor guys table, sooner or later a bona fide customer will want to look at something right in front of you. If you're not all consumed with the screen and looking, it might be different. But the texters are all just taking up space. Oh how I wish I had a portable jammer. One that would allow me to kill the signals of the idiot in front of me. Walking and on the road.
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I have been experiencing the backwards walkers lately at the shows. They are saying goodby to someone or are conversing while blindly backing up into the crowd.I had to put my hand on one not to get wacked. Same with the huge backpack guy. Gotta be on your toes anymore and know when to dodge or weave. :D
 
therevjay said:
I'm past 70. I think cell phones are just great. You don't HAVE to turn them on. That solves that getting a call while driving, or bad moment problem.


P.S. Them gas mowers will never catch on. They haven't got the torque or reliability of steam.
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I'm certain there must have been some old coots who railed about "them newfangled telegraph thing.....why can't everyone just wait for that nice pony express man if he makes it out alive from Comanche territory"?......:D
If you choose not to embrace technology in it's headlong rush to envelop humanity that is entirely a personal choice and perfectly all right. To condemn a technology and those who uses it simply because it frightens and confuses some people displays ignorance and shortsightedness.

My goodness...one could just imagine the gnashing of teeth if some of you all had been around when "that darned Devilish contraption of a 1911"was adopted by the American military......
I kid of course but to read this tread is to marvel at some of the prejudices we hold so dear.
 
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