Your argument is based on your opinion that "better" ammo doesn't matter (to you).
Which you contradict by saying one should buy better equipment and operate it properly to get precision. If better ammo isn't desirable (by some, apparently . . . including you . . . at least up to a point lol), why do that? Once one starts down that path, where one stops depends on one's objectives.
All progressives we use have slop at the toolhead as purchased, even the magical Dillons. Hornady AP does not, but can develop slop at the bushing. Bullet OAL often varies because of (eg) the presence/absence of a case in the sizer, or how well lubed that case is, due to tolerances in the ram. NO progressive's PM can deliver 100 rounds all within +/- 0.1gr, especially for some powder types, let alone hit all of them within a fraction of a tenth of the target charge.
If you think those things aren't important to you, that's fine, it's a very fair argument to make.
But the quality single stage allows for better ammo.
You interpret what I said, but I have no idea how you got there. Where did I say better ammo isn't desirable? I only argue you don't get there using a ss press vs a quality progressive. You can NOT build quality ammo on a krap anything press w/ krap dies, ss or progressive. The better machines are more robust, have tighter tolerances, same with dies. This can be proven if you take the time to do the measurements. No contradiction in any of this.
Yes, several presses can deliver 1/10gr powder accuracy with boring routine, just depends on the powder choice. So, obviously, you haven't loaded on such a press. Correct, the Lee measure can't do it, but RCBS, Hornady & Dillon can all give you 1/10gr powder accuracy, again with the certain powders.
If you honestly think your ammo is "better" because you anally measure powder to 1/2 of 1/10gr, you are just kidding yourself. Internal case variation even negates 1/10gr variations in powder. Try it, I have, no diff in accuracy, same for thrown charges with certain powders vs hand weighing, no accuracy diff. Too many people think spending more time doing useless things makes their ammo "better", it has been proven many times by many reloaders, just not so. I love number chasers, but the ammo still has to shoot, regardless of the numbers. SD, runout, exact powder charges, blah, blah, I've chased the numbers, the ammo isn't "better" just took longer to put together, no measureable accuracy advantage but maybe for the guy shooting a $4000 blue printed rifle @ 1000yds. Your final sentence speaks of someone who has never loaded on a quality progressive gear. Try it, you might like having the extra time to shoot.
We are all on the same side boys, just pace that's all.................great responses though
