Open carried the past 2 days

How many of those officers lost their job?

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How many of those officers lost their job?

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The cops were held to be not at fault because they were following a department issued memeo that had the wrong information on it
 
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...imo most criminals look for helpless victims not a guy who is in good shape and has a gun where he can get to it fast.

So true. Look at the "Knock-out" victims - some small, weak, elderly, etc.

I guess the BG feel good about themselves if they can do it with 1 sucker punch.
 
My personal feeling is that OC'ing a handgun is inviting trouble. Nobody needs to know you are carrying a gun on your person. LEO's and others with authority will feel a need to confront you, others with evil intentions will target you. .........

My feelings also. Open carry can & often does project a " looking for trouble" attitude to people, even some gunny types. If they call the cops, the cops are duty-bound to respond & check you out. Who needs the hassle? Just like if law enforcement gets carried away & violates your rights-- sure, you can go the lawsuit route, but what a PITA.
 
It's not that it will attract criminals. But, think like a bad guy for a moment. If you're going into a place to shoot some people, who are you going to shoot first? The guy with the gun. If you open carry, you become that target.

I'm not trying to convince you not to open carry. Just be aware of the possible complications involved.

Ah yes, the famous "you'll get shot first" theory of OC Fudds.

The only problem is: please find one cite where an open carrier got shot simply because he was open carrying his firearm. Go ahead, good luck.

And before you try: LEOs don't count. They are paid to go where citizens aren't.

Otherwise, try to find a good reason to not OC. "Getting shot first" isn't one of them.
 
Open carry is a good idea if your out in the woods or hiking the wilderness, or if you were back in the cowboy days.
In todays society, in most urban areas all your doing is attracting attention (I actually think that's what some guys want) making little old grandmothers and their children uneasy and inviting someone who doesn't know the law to dial 911 and bring the police to another "man with a gun" run.
And the gangbangers that want your gun, if they want it, they will get it.
You won't even know it's going to be snatched until it's too late. It's already happened in places like Detroit.
And really ask yourself...........what are you trying to prove?
 
And the gangbangers that want your gun, if they want it, they will get it.

They even know how all the retention devices work on police duty holsters and they spend hours in the joint practicing their snatching techniques...so grabbing your little 642 from a paddle should be pretty easy.
 
Maybe if people would actually read all the post ya'll would have seen that i don't live in an urban area, i live in a rural area. And that i will only be oc to and from work. And i'm not trying to prove anything. It is the easiest on and off holster that i have, and it's comfortable. It is also perfectly legal, & i was actually in line this evening at the gas station behind a cop and he never said a word to me

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Maybe if people would actually read all the post ya'll would have seen that i don't live in an urban area, i live in a rural area. And that i will only be oc to and from work. And i'm not trying to prove anything. It is the easiest on and off holster that i have, and it's comfortable. It is also perfectly legal, & i was actually in line this evening at the gas station behind a cop and he never said a word to me

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Dude, open carry is a very hot topic. people see those two words, all their blinders (both ways) go on and the react to those two words.

You could start a thread about how you OPENED your car door and CARRIED your groceries into the house and you'd get the same response pretty much anywhere on the net
 
S&W45Colt I live in metropolitan Atlanta, GA. Around here every county has a sheriff office, a police department, school resource officers that are not part of county police, every little municipality has their own police department. There are several colleges here, each with it's own public safety department. We have GSP, FBI, DHS, federal wildlife, GA Dept. of Natural Resources, USPS Postal Inspectors, district attorney investigators, and a ton or more of civilians legally carrying firearms. That does not include the criminal element illegally carrying firearms, or Justin Bieber who is currently house hunting here.

That is A LOT of firearms out in the general public at any given time. Why draw attention to yourself? I do not see the need to do so, but anybody that does want to should feel free to do so. I never said I thought LEO's were looking to shoot someone open carrying, it would look bad on a resume. An individual puts himself at risk as I feel that person is inviting conversation or confrontation.

I regularly see some young men open carrying handguns in north GA. People from out of town tend to be bothered by this, and call 911. A LEO will arrive and speak to them. Why the shops fail to post a "no weapons" sign is beyond me, but the managers have not done so. I have seen dozens of customers exit the grocery store, leaving behind several hundred dollars worth of groceries they intended to purchase, as they were frightened.

Not a comment on all LEO's, but a few are not wrapped very tight. They may not fail the selection process, or may fail and pay their own way through a POST academy. Then you have a problem.

I am in agreement with most of this post. If your an open carrier good for you. If you could carry concealed WHY DO IT? If I was intent on committing a crime and I saw an intepid open carrier,.. guese what? You take the first round and it's my studied opinion that Career criminals or Professional Armed Robbers would do just that. Y'all keep carrying in the open and hopefully the aforementioned will never befall you.
 
Here in Mississippi we went open carry last year. The next thing that happened Banks 7-11's Barber Shops Shopping malls Hospitals Cell phone stores Grocery stores Court house and many more had big signs on the doors saying no guns allowed. I have only witness one person open carry and that was at a parade and he looked pretty stupid walking amongst all of them thousand of people. Someone could have taken that gun in a heartbeat.

My Captain has told us he does not want to see us open carry and if we do we better have a badge showing and a set of cuffs on our belt.

As far as stopping a robbery in a store and your waving a gun around you are looking to get shot in a hurry. When we get there and see you guess who I will be aiming at?
 
I never said i was trying to stop a robbery or would be waving my gun around. But i am sure glad i don't live in your area because it's clear that ya'll have no respect for the law that you are sworn to uphold. And from your statements it would be a safe bet that you're one of the cops that doesn't like civilians to carry guns.

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As far as stopping a robbery in a store and your waving a gun around you are looking to get shot in a hurry. When we get there and see you guess who I will be aiming at?

I won't be "waving a gun around". I'll be the one doing CPR on the dead criminal. Please don't shoot me, but please get there quickly and relieve me. My arms will be getting tired.

Sorry if I had to interrupt your day by stopping an armed robbery.


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I never said i was trying to stop a robbery or would be waving my gun around. But i am sure glad i don't live in your area because it's clear that ya'll have no respect for the law that you are sworn to uphold. And from your statements it would be a safe bet that you're one of the cops that doesn't like civilians to carry guns.

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Why would you ASSUME he doesn't like civilians to carry a lawfully carried firearm? Why would a LEO in the gas line give you a second look friend? It's legal as you mentioned. Sounds to me that your looking for an issue and judging by your posts your one of those who may not care for law enforcement and are looking to make a statement by carrying. I know your type and I'm sure that you'll get your wish one fine day. You may not like the outcome so enjoy your open carry and statement making.
 
Why would you ASSUME he doesn't like civilians to carry a lawfully carried firearm? Why would a LEO in the gas line give you a second look friend? It's legal as you mentioned. Sounds to me that your looking for an issue and judging by your posts your one of those who may not care for law enforcement and are looking to make a statement by carrying. I know your type and I'm sure that you'll get your wish one fine day. You may not like the outcome so enjoy your open carry and statement making.

I assume that because the statement was when we get there and see you guess who i will be aiming at. And sir you do not know my " type " i have loads of respect for police officers and the job they do. They go to work every day knowing it could be their last. That being said a badge and a gun doesn't automatically grant you respect. I've met some great cops and lousy cops just like with any other profession, and people should really read all of the post as i stated this was the FIRST time i have open carried, it had nothing to do with making a statement. Honestly i'm new to gun forums as i have always been on musician forums. I honestly had no idea open carry was such a taboo issue, and i really don't understand why it is. Idc if you oc or cc or carry it in a little red wagon as long as you are safe and don't try to harm me or my loved ones idc. If i had known this topic was such a horrible one i wouldn't have started it. I was just sharing with other gun guys my first experience with open carry.

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I'm 70 years old and I have carried professionally ,military and LEO, for 50 or so years. Open carry? WHY? Oh yeah, It is your right and it's very macho but,git your trips on route 66. I don't want people to know I'm packing, 'cause nothing good can come of it.Want to be a macho dude? Get yourself a $5000 dollar silver mounted saddle and learn to ride a horse. Sorry if this offends anyone but, anyone that wants to "flash his iron" is a "drugstore cowboy". Grow up and pack reasonably and responsibly. That's my take, and my opinion, take or leave it. Nick
 
You have the right, provided it's legal where you live, to carry openly. I have the right to decide that for me it would be a stupid thing to do and would get me all manner of attention I don't want or need.

I'll support your right to openly carry, while disagreeing with the practice in most situations. I'll ask you to support my right to do it my way, again in most situations.

Can't we just leave this subject alone now? It always seems to get overheated without changing anybody's mind.
 
When you open carry, you not only represent yourself....you are representing all gun owners. Open carry brings attention on all of us and gets a lot of people upset seeing someone with a gun. I for one, would never intentionally bring attention to the fact that I am carrying. I just think this hurts our cause more than it ever helps it.
 
When I open carry (which is almost always), I DO consider myself a representative of all gun owners. As such, I comport myself in a professional manner becoming of a responsible law abiding citizen.

One function that open carry serves is to educate the public. Most people get their images of gun owners from the media and TV/movies. This is a bad thing. If the public saw more and more law abiding, professional looking, responsible citizens openly carry a firearm, people's opinions will change for the better. This helps ALL gun owners.

I look at our rights to go armed (openly and concealed) as analogous to a civil rights movement. It was not long ago that people were offended, afraid, and liable to respond with violence when a black American didn't move to the back of the bus, or go to the 'Colored only section'. This, of course, was wrong. I view our rights as gun owners to go armed, as law abiding citizens, being violated in the same way. The general zeitgeist of viewing openly armed Americans as immediately deviant or sinister is as much without warrant as it was to do the same for people who merely look different. And for people to be suddenly offended, or afraid, or reactive with violence, at the mere site of an Armed American, is a prejudice that needs to be done away with.

There are many reasons I open carry. To assume to know that my intentions are for 'machismo', or 'baiting confrontation', is an exercise in unwarranted prejudice. I open carry because it is more comfortable, because it is lawful, because it can be a positive educational opportunity, and because I am one of the good guys that should not have to justify that which is my right as an American.

I will not excoriate those who choose to exclusively carry concealed. There is wisdom in that decision too. But I also ask for the same recognition of freedom as well--please do not assume to know better than me how I should live and exercise my liberty.

This is America. We all value liberty. Liberty entails being able to go about your business without harming others, and choosing to open carry is an exercise of that liberty. People may be offended, or be put off, by a behavior that isn't customary, but engaging in lawful activity, especially one that is enumerated in our Bill of Rights, should never be subject to the hand of tyranny, either by the government, or the tyranny of the masses.

WE are all on the same side here.
 
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