As always I value the the input from fellow fourm members. Today I looked at a nickel no dash model 57 it has a 4" barrel in the correct presentation box relined with the correct tools. The condition is 99% it has rosewood smooth presentation grips. Serial # S2529XX. They are asking 1350? What do you think???????
Opinions needed nickel 57 no dash
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Art Doc
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Well, I am no expert but the way I see it they took a $1,000 gun and removed the $400 original stocks and are now asking $1,350. But that's just my opinion. You decide what it's worth to you.
fat tom
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Keep lookin' Bob. I'd say that price is at least $400 too high.
f.t.
f.t.
BigBill
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My LGS has new ones for $699 in nickel. With the loc but for that price i can live with the loc. When S&W discontinues the loc the'll be sought after and worth much more. Of course i'd go for another round of the no loc N Frames, i just gotta right?
OP
Anybody out there have any idea how many nickel 4" 57 no dashes were made. Just how rare are they?
Art Doc
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I got this one from a Gunbroker auction for $325. But it was about seven years ago.
smithnframe
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Offer the LGS 1000.00 but remember it wont go down in value IMO!
smithnframe
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I traded a rifle for a 57 no dash with the 8 3/8 bbl in the presentation case with all the tools and papers and he was asking 1050.00 for it. In 98 % condition. I also got a new Taurus 357 snubby in the deal.
OP
I'm goning to try to beat the gun shop down at least 150 because the COKES have been harvested. I just don't think you can compare this gun to a 8 3/8 gun. Its like apples and oranges. How about all u "N" frame guys any idea how many no dash nickel guns were made??? The local shop is saying its a rare gun. It would fit into my collection nicely I don't have a 57 got 2 58's and love em both and my 657 3" is hard to beat for all around looks and performance. I know you guys are thinking I've already made up my mind but never say never with me.
fat tom
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Bob,just to give you an idea of what's still out there. No presentation case,but I had an extra lieing around.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1961-1980/239886-new-acquisitions.html
f.t.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1961-1980/239886-new-acquisitions.html
f.t.
I think the biggest issue that is being overlooked here is the gun being S serial numbered....trying to compare this to P&R N serial numbered guns is leading the OP in the wrong direction.
You almost NEVER see early 57's for sale and when you do they are high dollar...I watched a blued 6" 57 with Cokes on gunbroker go for $1,500 a few months ago.....This one being Nickel, It could have came with Smooth Presentation stocks......assuming the stocks are from the same era, i dont think the price is too bad....especially for a short barrel
You almost NEVER see early 57's for sale and when you do they are high dollar...I watched a blued 6" 57 with Cokes on gunbroker go for $1,500 a few months ago.....This one being Nickel, It could have came with Smooth Presentation stocks......assuming the stocks are from the same era, i dont think the price is too bad....especially for a short barrel
Art Doc
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S Gun? So what? Means it was made 1964-1970. Only real difference is the 1964-67 ones had the "Cokes" WHICH ARE MISSING from this one. I would not pay even one dollar extra just for an S serial prefix.
Bob- You sound like you are panting over this gun. So buy it. Who cares that others think it's over-priced? (Including me.) Your money... your decision.
Bob- You sound like you are panting over this gun. So buy it. Who cares that others think it's over-priced? (Including me.) Your money... your decision.
Unlike the Model 27 and 28, I do not think the "no dash" is a rarity when it comes to the Model 57. I have no idea about the number of no dash Nickel guns...but I have a nickel 4" M57 that the book dates to approximately 1973 and Saxonpig has posted one in this thread that dates to 1980 (per his picture). So the "no dash" nickel guns spanned more than a decade at least....but who knows how many were produced. I hope this helps and good luck with the purchase.
YOU might not pay an extra $1 for an S serial numbered gun but A LOT of other people would and have....and So what about the Cokes....If the Smooth Rosewood stocks are of the same vintage as Cokes, there isnt much difference in value....you are like talking to a brick wall sometimes......
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i have to agree with 410bore on the issue of value differences in "s" series and "n" series N frames. Some individuals may not place a difference in value but most of the buyers do and that is one reason why they almost always sell at a higher price assuming all else equal. I'm sure this preceived diff varies from model to model, but most buyers are willing to pay more for "s" series N frames.
I think I'd like to see a picture of the rosewood stocks
I'd try to get them lower but it's only money
I'd try to get them lower but it's only money
snoopdawg45
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I picked up a blued 57 in the S serial # range made in 69. I have $850 in it, no box or tools. Just the gun. It is about 95% and I feel I got a heck of a buy. I've been looking for one for about 6 years and this was the first one. If you want one then buy it. You may never see another one.
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Art Doc
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410bore- Try this: Offer the smooth stocks for sale for $500 and see if they sell. Bet they don't. The original "Cokes" would sell for that much or more. Makes no difference if the smooth stocks are original (which they most likely ARE NOT) they are worth less money than are the "Cokes" and that reduces the monetary value of the gun. Even a brick wall is right once in a while.
As for paying more for an S serial, go ahead. I said I would not because I realize there is no real value to having an S rather than an N (except in the minds of some buyers, apparently) but anyone and everyone else is free to do so with my blessings. I want everybody to be happy and if paying a premium for an S makes you happy then go for it.
As for paying more for an S serial, go ahead. I said I would not because I realize there is no real value to having an S rather than an N (except in the minds of some buyers, apparently) but anyone and everyone else is free to do so with my blessings. I want everybody to be happy and if paying a premium for an S makes you happy then go for it.
I didnt say the smooth stocks were worth $500....and I dont think Cokes are either....I have watched several sets sell in the $300-375 range lately and I would venture to guess smooth rosewoods cant be had for much cheaper than that.
fat tom
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I totally missed the reference to the "S" serial number prefix. 
THAT would add a premium for me also. You mention that the case has been re-lined. Are you sure it's been re-lined,or does have the original blue velour lining of the early ones?
f.t.
THAT would add a premium for me also. You mention that the case has been re-lined. Are you sure it's been re-lined,or does have the original blue velour lining of the early ones?f.t.
OP
The lining is red in color FYI, that is why I thought it had to be replaced. It also is very loose to the insert.
Art Doc
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FT- Just out of curiosity, if you see two identical revolvers for sale... absolutely equal in every way... but one was made in 1969 and is S299664 and the other was made in 1971 and is N113451... exactly how much more would you be willing to pay for the one made 2 years earlier? I'd like to get an idea of how much of a premium folks place on that magic S.
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