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SCruzer

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I'm beginning to worry and panic about the price hike on ammo in California starting next year. Haven't even begun to mentally prepare for an increase in ammo prices, let alone am I financially ready for it. Be honest everyone...how bad do you really think the prices will be at the start of 2018?
When Trump went into office I did see a drop in prices for ammo, but at this point, when new laws take action in California its all over.
 
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can u get reloading components ? Stock up on primer, bullet and powder. Consolidate calibers.
 
All you can do is buy what you can afford. Start today, why wait until it's begun as you believe it will.

P.S. Glad I left CA years ago.
 
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Open an account with sportsmansguide, order a bunch of ammo, and put it on the 4 pay plan
 
Some information for those of us who don't live in Calif..........

Election 2016 brought about sweeping changes in both the country and within the states themselves. Certain states tightened up on their firearm-related policies. In California, one of the 17 Propositions presented to voters on November 8 included doling out enhanced limitations concerning magazine capacity as well as transactions and transport involving ammunition. As of press time, the following regulations have already been implemented:

Jan. 1, 2017

Falsely reporting a lost/stolen firearm is now a crime.
No lending firearms outside immediate family members.
"Assault weapons" are now defined as "semiautomatic centerfire rifle, or a semiautomatic pistol that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of those specified attributes".
Handguns must be locked in a container or trunk when left in an empty vehicle.

July 1, 2017

Illegal to possess—with limited exceptions—magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds.
Theft or loss of a firearm must be reported to police within five days.

The last regulation of the year to roll out is on December 31, 2017 which is the deadline to register an assault rifle that is described in the aforementioned definition.

The bulk of California's Proposition 63 aims to decrease gun violence with more restrictions on purchasing and transporting ammunition. These regulations will make it more difficult for citizens to efficiently get the ammo they need for hunting and shooting. Below is what's to come:

Jan. 1, 2018

Vendors must have Department of Justice approval to sell ammo – Current retailers with an ammo supply may stop providing ammunition altogether due to the process of getting DOJ consent. For hunters and shooters in rural areas who rely on mom-and-pop sporting goods stores, they may need to seek out a new supplier as well as plan on driving a lot farther to find the ammunition of their choice.
Importing ammunition – Californians must go to an ammunition vendor that has been approved by the DOJ. If a resident orders ammunition from a website, the ammo in question must be sent to an approved vendor for the consumer to pick up. Purchasing ammunition out of state and then returning to California runs the risk of carrying a misdemeanor charge of transporting ammo across state lines.
Transferring ammunition – For anyone who has ammunition they are looking to part with, you will need to enlist a DOJ-approved vendor to complete the transaction, same way you would transfer a firearm to a new owner.

July 1, 2018

State permission is now required to manufacture or assemble a gun.

Dec. 31, 2018

Any unmarked firearm possessed after July 1, 2018 must now have a serial number.

July 1, 2019

Background Checks For Ammunition Required – California residents will need to have a background check prior to purchasing ammunition—with a processing fee. Any firearm owner will tell you that a background check is standard procedure for buying a gun, but to have a background check for a box of .223 is just an additional hurdle.

For shooters and hunters who live in California, all you can do now is map out your nearest ammo retailer and hope they can still provide you with the ammunition of your choice. Or, you can wait a few days after placing an order online and make the trip to the store. Either way, welcome to your new normal.
 
Some information for those of us who don't live in Calif..........

Election 2016 brought about sweeping changes in both the country and within the states themselves. Certain states tightened up on their firearm-related policies. In California, one of the 17 Propositions presented to voters on November 8 included doling out enhanced limitations concerning magazine capacity as well as transactions and transport involving ammunition. As of press time, the following regulations have already been implemented:


Jan. 1, 2017

Falsely reporting a lost/stolen firearm is now a crime.
No lending firearms outside immediate family members.
"Assault weapons" are now defined as "semiautomatic centerfire rifle, or a semiautomatic pistol that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of those specified attributes".
Handguns must be locked in a container or trunk when left in an empty vehicle.

July 1, 2017

Illegal to possess—with limited exceptions—magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds.
Theft or loss of a firearm must be reported to police within five days.

The last regulation of the year to roll out is on December 31, 2017 which is the deadline to register an assault rifle that is described in the aforementioned definition.

The bulk of California's Proposition 63 aims to decrease gun violence with more restrictions on purchasing and transporting ammunition. These regulations will make it more difficult for citizens to efficiently get the ammo they need for hunting and shooting. Below is what's to come:

Jan. 1, 2018

Vendors must have Department of Justice approval to sell ammo – Current retailers with an ammo supply may stop providing ammunition altogether due to the process of getting DOJ consent. For hunters and shooters in rural areas who rely on mom-and-pop sporting goods stores, they may need to seek out a new supplier as well as plan on driving a lot farther to find the ammunition of their choice.
Importing ammunition – Californians must go to an ammunition vendor that has been approved by the DOJ. If a resident orders ammunition from a website, the ammo in question must be sent to an approved vendor for the consumer to pick up. Purchasing ammunition out of state and then returning to California runs the risk of carrying a misdemeanor charge of transporting ammo across state lines.
Transferring ammunition – For anyone who has ammunition they are looking to part with, you will need to enlist a DOJ-approved vendor to complete the transaction, same way you would transfer a firearm to a new owner.

July 1, 2018

State permission is now required to manufacture or assemble a gun.

Dec. 31, 2018

Any unmarked firearm possessed after July 1, 2018 must now have a serial number.

July 1, 2019

Background Checks For Ammunition Required – California residents will need to have a background check prior to purchasing ammunition—with a processing fee. Any firearm owner will tell you that a background check is standard procedure for buying a gun, but to have a background check for a box of .223 is just an additional hurdle.

For shooters and hunters who live in California, all you can do now is map out your nearest ammo retailer and hope they can still provide you with the ammunition of your choice. Or, you can wait a few days after placing an order online and make the trip to the store. Either way, welcome to your new normal.

Good incentive to start reloading. Although it's only a matter of time before more draconian laws trickle down to ammo components.
 
What are the new laws that will significantly raise the ammo price in Calif?

Even if it's severe, will that not create an underground interstate for ammo?

Here is a list of some regulations from the DOJ!
https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/regs/proposed-text-vendor-licensing.pdf

I found that a bit too formal/confusing and thought this was a better breakdown of the incoming regulations!
California Gun Law Guide I LAX Range

I think where the most damage being done with the regulations is the restriction being put online ammo purchases and requiring all purchases to be done in-store.
 
How high? Put it this way, if the state government of California could, they would ban ammunition sales outright. In order to do this without legislation, they can begin to do what is being done up here in Washington state. Cities, like Seattle have placed a very, very high taxes on individual rounds of ammunition. Deliberately so, not to gain revenue, but to push firearms related stores out of the city limits, which has succeeded. It is my understanding that California has placed a (or is about to) ban online ammunition purchases. So, what they cannot do legislatively, they will do with punitive taxation.
Frankly, at this point, your best alternative is to move out of California to a free state if you wish to continue unfettered use of your firearms. That is what I did, over 20 years ago and is what I highly recommend.


GS
 
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Sounds like Cali. government is trying to make everything about gun law as complicated as possible. Even if you manage to do everything else right, ya'll still probably will have to make a ricochet shot when protecting yourselves. Keep your heads up, law of self preservation will eventually prevail.
 
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Is it now illegal to buy ammo out of state and bring it into California? I am from Arizona, but lived in the San Diego area for six years. Used to buy my reloading supplies in AZ when I visited family because they were considerably cheaper here.

If not illegal, maybe save up and take a weekend trip to the Phoenix area. BassPro, Cabelas, and many gun stores. Plus a ton of Walmart stores.
 
The only problem with restrictive gun laws, they only effect law abiding citizens who are not going to go on a mass murder spree. The criminals don't obey laws, they are criminals after all.
 
Is it now illegal to buy ammo out of state and bring it into California? I am from Arizona, but lived in the San Diego area for six years. Used to buy my reloading supplies in AZ when I visited family because they were considerably cheaper here.

If not illegal, maybe save up and take a weekend trip to the Phoenix area. BassPro, Cabelas, and many gun stores. Plus a ton of Walmart stores.

He'd be better ordering online now from cheaper sources than BASS and Cabelas.
 
I don't depend.....

Prices are bad enough but shortages are even worse. You can get started in reloading for a few hundred dollars to a few more hundred dollars if you shoot a lot and need some equipment designed for higher production.

I've reloaded a long time but after the shortages after 2012 I make sure that I keep plenty of components. If you keep it simple and don't add every gadget, you can see cost savings, especially if you shoot more expensive ammo. 9mm, not so much. .357 and rifle, I save a ton.

I'm NOT going to get caught with my pants down again.:mad:
 
This will likely create a new class of criminal. A reloader! Well, an unlicensed, black market, basement dwelling kind. Selling on street corners in seedy parts of town. You will recognize the dealer, he will be doing a little distinctive dance in the road at midnight! Unlike the other kind of midnight dealer, the law will come down heavy on this criminal!

Best,
Rick
 
I wonder what part of this applies to a visitor or motorist passing through California with ammo in the car or motor home.
 

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