optic power and accuracy question.

[buckeye0223]

Off of a rest at what yardage are you able to keep sub 2" groups with your 15-22?

What power optics are you using on your 15-22 to achieve those groups?

If you use a variable power scope, what power do you find yourself using the most?

I am torn between a fixed 4X and a 3X9. Without knowing what this rifle is capable of it makes my choice even harder. I have very limited experience with .22LR, so I am not familiar with accuracy potential.

 

[zamboni_driver]

It depends on your eyesight. I have a .22 with a fixed 4x scope that is great at 25 yards but is harder to use at 100 yards. I have a 4-10x on my 15/22 and the zoom helps me a lot when shooting at 100 yards.

 

[Falguy]

buckeye0223 quote

"I am torn between a fixed 4X and a 3X9"

What I've found best for the 22LR is a 2-7x28 rimfire scope
I'd have to look it up but I think the Leupold is $219 and the Weaver 2-7x28 runs around $120
The 2-7 is a good compromise between a fixed 4 and a 3-9

A rimfire scope will have the paralax set at 50 or 60yds
At the low end, 2 power works well and 7 power works good enough for 100yd shooting


I really haven't found too much quality difference between the Leupold and Weaver. Both are good and are easy to mount low to the receiver
Bushnell makes some OK scopes for rimfires as well

 

[CajunMouseSniper]

IMHO about 50 yds is the max you can achieve the groups you are looking for. I use a 3x9 scope and anything 50 yds plus I am always on 9x. Anything less than 50 yds I typically keep the scope on 4x. Quality ammo plays a big part in keeping tight groups. I've had good success with Aguila Match Rifle.

 

[grimreaper21]

since nobody wants to talk in my thread, what do you guys think about this. you get a 3-9x40 in both the rifle and rimfire version for the price of a single rifle scope.

Cabela's -- Burris Fullfield II™ and RimFire Rifle Scopes

 

[zamboni_driver]

Sure, I guess if you need a second scope. I got a Barska 4x fixed scoped for under $75.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Off of a rest at what yardage are you able to keep sub 2" groups with your 15-22?

40-50 yards max

What power optics are you using on your 15-22 to achieve those groups?
If you use a variable power scope, what power do you find yourself using the most?

I am torn between a fixed 4X and a 3X9. Without knowing what this rifle is capable of it makes my choice even harder. I have very limited experience with .22LR, so I am not familiar with accuracy potential.

IMO, it really doesn't matter that much on a bench at 50 yards.... 4x or 3-9x... either will give you more precise and repeatable aim than what the 15-22 is capable of at 50 yards...

I have a Primary Arms 4x and much prefer it to my 3-9x Bushnell for precision shooting at 50 yards. The PA 4x has a micro-fine reticle that allows for more precise aim at 50 yards than the Bushnell does at 9x with it's thicker reticle. I also like the 4x for shorter distances with a wider field of view.

IMO, the 15-22 is boring as it is frustrating from the bench shooting at paper. The 15-22 is at home with a 1x red dot and soda cans in it's aim.

 

[BELT_FED]

i will agree with phil when i comes to the 15-22.. but your scope should reflect what kind of shooting you do... mine is used for "running and gunning" so my shots vary from 70-100yd free handed to 25-50yd double tapping on the run so to speek. so, ive mounted a 3-9x42 ncstar tac III and a micro reflex on a 1 o'clock mount this gives me 2 separate optics for 2 different types of shots.. But, I've got a 22 that has a 8-32x56mm moster on it that as never shot past 50 yds.. that being said it shoots 1 hole groups at that range and the 15-22 cant do that so it doesnt make alot of since to mount somethin like that on it.. look around and find something you like and then ask the owner in a pm what he thinks of it

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Belt_Fed is exactly right, optics should suit the type shooting you want to do. As well, so should the firearm. Once you start cross-dressing everything becomes a compromise that doesn't quite fit or deliver it's potential.

 

[buckeye0223]

Off of a rest at what yardage are you able to keep sub 2" groups with your 15-22?

40-50 yards max

What power optics are you using on your 15-22 to achieve those groups?
If you use a variable power scope, what power do you find yourself using the most?

I am torn between a fixed 4X and a 3X9. Without knowing what this rifle is capable of it makes my choice even harder. I have very limited experience with .22LR, so I am not familiar with accuracy potential.

IMO, it really doesn't matter that much on a bench at 50 yards.... 4x or 3-9x... either will give you more precise and repeatable aim than what the 15-22 is capable of at 50 yards...

I have a Primary Arms 4x and much prefer it to my 3-9x Bushnell for precision shooting at 50 yards. The PA 4x has a micro-fine reticle that allows for more precise aim at 50 yards than the Bushnell does at 9x with it's thicker reticle. I also like the 4x for shorter distances with a wider field of view.

IMO, the 15-22 is boring as it is frustrating from the bench shooting at paper. The 15-22 is at home with a 1x red dot and soda cans in it's aim.

The Primary arms 4X is one of the scopes I was looking at, but was unable to find it on the website. I like that it has the picatinny rails, where I could mount a holosight to the top rail.

Is it no longer available? Or can I just not find it?

 

[MrYoga]

Two Inch Groups

Off of a rest at what yardage are you able to keep sub 2" groups with your 15-22?

What power optics are you using on your 15-22 to achieve those groups?

If you use a variable power scope, what power do you find yourself using the most?

I am torn between a fixed 4X and a 3X9. Without knowing what this rifle is capable of it makes my choice even harder. I have very limited experience with .22LR, so I am not familiar with accuracy potential.

since nobody wants to talk in my thread, what do you guys think about this. you get a 3-9x40 in both the rifle and rimfire version for the price of a single rifle scope.

Cabela's -- Burris Fullfield II™ and RimFire Rifle Scopes

I have the exact Burris Rimfire scope on my gun. I bought the set up used and the scope is mounted with Burris XTR Xtreme Tactical Rings. At the moment, my backyard range is set up for 40 yards, so that's the distance I'm sighted in. I've tried a half dozen ammo types and manufacturers so far and IMO, the CCI Mini Mag 36 grain copper plated hollow point and the CCI Stinger HV copper plated hollow point are definitely capable of 2 inch groups or better at 50 yards.
The only Aguila I've tried are the 60 grain SniperSubSonic at 15 and 25 yards. After that, they tend to tumble(I read somewhere that they are meant for 1in8 or 1in9 twist barrels). After 2 full 25 mags of the SSS, I have yet to experience any feed or fire problems and the will group very well at short range. At five yards in my 10-22, they all went in the same hole(well, it was the size of a quarter)
I've also tried Rem, Fed and Win. And ordered more types of Aquila and Federal. I'll do a more comprensive report after the other ammo arrives.
BTW The Aquila SSS throws a lot of burning powder with the ejected shell and stinks to high Heaven so letfties beware when firing this stuff

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

The Primary arms 4X is one of the scopes I was looking at, but was unable to find it on the website. I like that it has the picatinny rails, where I could mount a holosight to the top rail.

Is it no longer available? Or can I just not find it?

Primary Arms is working on a Gen2. I have seen others that appear identical on the outside and a bit more dressed up with iron sights, lasers and dual green/red illumination. The specs are not the same. This ones shows 4.5 inches eye relief. Mine is closer to three or a little under. There's a zillion variations of all these dime store optics... but I think they all come out of the same Chinese labor camp.

4x32 Scope Dual Illuminated Fiber Optic Sight - COMPACT RIFLE SCOPES by Combathunting.com

 

[shooter1950]

Off of a rest at what yardage are you able to keep sub 2" groups with your 15-22?

40-50 yards max

What power optics are you using on your 15-22 to achieve those groups?
If you use a variable power scope, what power do you find yourself using the most?

I am torn between a fixed 4X and a 3X9. Without knowing what this rifle is capable of it makes my choice even harder. I have very limited experience with .22LR, so I am not familiar with accuracy potential.

IMO, it really doesn't matter that much on a bench at 50 yards.... 4x or 3-9x... either will give you more precise and repeatable aim than what the 15-22 is capable of at 50 yards...

I have a Primary Arms 4x and much prefer it to my 3-9x Bushnell for precision shooting at 50 yards. The PA 4x has a micro-fine reticle that allows for more precise aim at 50 yards than the Bushnell does at 9x with it's thicker reticle. I also like the 4x for shorter distances with a wider field of view.

IMO, the 15-22 is boring as it is frustrating from the bench shooting at paper. The 15-22 is at home with a 1x red dot and soda cans in it's aim.

That don't look like a picture of a MP 15 22 to me?

 

[CajunMouseSniper]

Check out this link for how accurate various .22 ammo can be at 100 yds. Kinda put thing in perspective for me as to the relative accuracy of 15-22 compared to a precision shooting rifle.
22 Rim Fire Ammo Test In A Bleik

 

[grimreaper21]

that being said it shoots 1 hole groups at that range and the 15-22 cant do that so it doesnt make alot of since to mount somethin like that on it.. look around and find something you like and then ask the owner in a pm what he thinks of it

so you're saying the 15-22 is only capable up unto about 50 yards? Thats odd because i've read more like 150yards. Buying a longgun thats only 50 yard capable seems like a waste to me, i'm better off investing in a pistol.

I have the exact Burris Rimfire scope on my gun. I bought the set up used and the scope is mounted with Burris XTR Xtreme Tactical Rings. At the moment, my backyard range is set up for 40 yards, so that's the distance I'm sighted in. I've tried a half dozen ammo types and manufacturers so far and IMO, the CCI Mini Mag 36 grain copper plated hollow point and the CCI Stinger HV copper plated hollow point are definitely capable of 2 inch groups or better at 50 yards.
The only Aguila I've tried are the 60 grain SniperSubSonic at 15 and 25 yards. After that, they tend to tumble(I read somewhere that they are meant for 1in8 or 1in9 twist barrels). After 2 full 25 mags of the SSS, I have yet to experience any feed or fire problems and the will group very well at short range. At five yards in my 10-22, they all went in the same hole(well, it was the size of a quarter)
I've also tried Rem, Fed and Win. And ordered more types of Aquila and Federal. I'll do a more comprensive report after the other ammo arrives.
BTW The Aquila SSS throws a lot of burning powder with the ejected shell and stinks to high Heaven so letfties beware when firing this stuff

cool how do you like it! i'm assuming you're just using the rimfire one for now @ 40-50yds. Does it adjust just like the rifle scope too? Since the riflescope has its paralax set for around 200 yards, would be interesting if someone tried some shots at that range.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

so you're saying the 15-22 is only capable up unto about 50 yards? Thats odd because i've read more like 150yards. Buying a longgun thats only 50 yard capable seems like a waste to me, i'm better off investing in a pistol.

The OP specifically asked what distance the 15-22 can produce 2in groups. From my experience, 40-50 yards is about right +/-. Never heard anyone claim they can shoot 2in groups out to 150 yards.

CajunMouseSniper - Looking at those CCI Blazer groups.... why am I buying Aguila Match?

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

That don't look like a picture of a MP 15 22 to me?

Yeah, the PA 4x is mounted on my Sig522.

 

[MrYoga]

Scope It Out

cool how do you like it! i'm assuming you're just using the rimfire one for now @ 40-50yds. Does it adjust just like the rifle scope too? Since the riflescope has its paralax set for around 200 yards, would be interesting if someone tried some shots at that range.

I like it just fine. I bought my 15-22 used with the rimfire scope already mounted. So I'm guessing that the previous owner got the 2-scope deal.
It's a 3x9 and adjusts very easily. At 40 yards on 3 power, the target is a little blurry, but that could be my 58 year old eyes. The leaves on tops of trees that I estimate to be 100 yards away are pretty clear on 9, but still a little out of focus to me. The cross hairs stay very sharp. It very well could be a 200 yard scope like its big brother. I put a cheapo bipod from Wally World($29.99 I think) on the gun and the target is easy to aquire. Nice sight picture for an inexpensive scope.
I put a Simmons 4x20 fixed power on my 10-22. It's for Black Powder and cost $59.99 10 years ago. Haven't muzzleloaded in a whille so I put it on the Ruger. It also works adequately.
BTW I thought that I'd give some Win Epediters a second chance in the 10-22 and amongst a lot of underpowered loads, One LODGED in the barrel. I was ready for it and had a cleaning rod close by. It's amazing how little force it took to push the bullet out.
Well, Cabelas says that my 500 Aguila Super Max HPs($42.99) and 500 Solids($40.99) should be at my house on Wed along with 2 Boxes of Bulk Federal(2100 rds/box@$74.99)

 

[BELT_FED]

so you're saying the 15-22 is only capable up unto about 50 yards? Thats odd because i've read more like 150yards. Buying a longgun thats only 50 yard capable seems like a waste to me, i'm better off investing in a pistol.

no thats not what im saying at all if you read all of my quote i use mine out past 100 yds with ease but, I also know what to expect from it at 100 yds... I bought my gun as a trainer for close quarters drills its alot of fun and real fast pace.. the 15-22 is perfect in this role because it has the feel and function of an m4 and cost a 10th to operated.. not to mention its easier to stop the bullets in there intended backstops.. with that being said if im going to punch paper at 100, 200, 600, or even a 1000 yds i have weapons setup for that.. and i wouldnt choose a 15-22 for it..

the OP asked a simple question and i was trying to give a simple answer.. my and probably most other 15-22s on here make 90% of their shots at 50yds or less... so thats why i suggested the optics that I did, these guns are supposed to be fun not target rifles... and I hoped it helped and i hope this helps with any confusion