O'Reilly and Registration
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Conccrete
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I think he's wrong on most everything. I used to like him but now almost never watch him.
Can the NRA get this blowhard fired?
mkk41
US Veteran
Well if I may play devils advocate for a moment , there is precident for that thinking. All civillian owned machine guns were registered under the 1934 GCA and there has been no confiscation and practically ZERO crimes committed with legally owned & registered machine guns.
jaykellogg
Absent Comrade
I watched that segment with my mouth open! When Lou Dobbs (An Englishman btw) pointed out O"Reilly's stop and frisk was unconstitutional, Bill muttered he would put that to his legal team which i understood to mean some of the lawyers he has on his show.
This was a very poorly thought out position. Assuming stop and frisk were legal and Assuming legal guns were registered, if you get stopped the police would need a database like the DMV except nationwide. Bill is putting the requirement on the wrong place. I am a licensed gun owner. If I am licensed, why do my guns need to be registered? And if my guns are registered, do i still need a license to carry? (duh)
Geeze, if stop and frisk were legal, just think of all the gang bangers in Chicago they could arrest with illegal guns drugs, etc.
This is the email I sent O'Reilly
If stop and frisk were legal then the police could go through the projects in Chicago and make arrests of gang bangers for possession of guns (and drugs).
It is not necessary to register my guns because I am licensed to carry a gun. If I am stopped by a law officer and I am carrying I declare I am licensed and I have a gun on me.
Millions of registered cars are stolen every year and never recovered, how would it work better for guns? Automobiles are harder to conceal.
Most gun owners feel gun registration would eventually lead to gun confiscation.
The only purpose of the 2nd amendment is to protect US citizens from government tyranny.
This was a very poorly thought out position. Assuming stop and frisk were legal and Assuming legal guns were registered, if you get stopped the police would need a database like the DMV except nationwide. Bill is putting the requirement on the wrong place. I am a licensed gun owner. If I am licensed, why do my guns need to be registered? And if my guns are registered, do i still need a license to carry? (duh)
Geeze, if stop and frisk were legal, just think of all the gang bangers in Chicago they could arrest with illegal guns drugs, etc.
This is the email I sent O'Reilly
If stop and frisk were legal then the police could go through the projects in Chicago and make arrests of gang bangers for possession of guns (and drugs).
It is not necessary to register my guns because I am licensed to carry a gun. If I am stopped by a law officer and I am carrying I declare I am licensed and I have a gun on me.
Millions of registered cars are stolen every year and never recovered, how would it work better for guns? Automobiles are harder to conceal.
Most gun owners feel gun registration would eventually lead to gun confiscation.
The only purpose of the 2nd amendment is to protect US citizens from government tyranny.
Fox & B.O.
I stopped watching B.O. after the Aurora shootings when he wanted the FBI to have control over all firearm ownership, to outlaw "heavy weapons" ( his words) such as the AK-47, AR-15, etc.....he is also quite ignorant about what actual laws we already have on our books as is evidenced by his continued plea for mandatory sentencing on the federal level for gun violations.....we've got em Bill.....but it doesn't do any good if the prosecutors will not prosecute the offendrs.....
I stopped watching B.O. after the Aurora shootings when he wanted the FBI to have control over all firearm ownership, to outlaw "heavy weapons" ( his words) such as the AK-47, AR-15, etc.....he is also quite ignorant about what actual laws we already have on our books as is evidenced by his continued plea for mandatory sentencing on the federal level for gun violations.....we've got em Bill.....but it doesn't do any good if the prosecutors will not prosecute the offendrs.....
mkk41
US Veteran
Ahhh , the comparison of guns and cars!
One of the news/talk shows was going on about how cars must be registered and insured , and how drivers must be licensed. But the one gal said,"You need a drivers license to buy a car." , Which of course is not true.
You supposedly need a license/insurance/registration to operate a car on public roads , which is a privilege!
Yet how many people are arrested each year for driving with no license , insurance , registration , etc.
One of the news/talk shows was going on about how cars must be registered and insured , and how drivers must be licensed. But the one gal said,"You need a drivers license to buy a car." , Which of course is not true.
You supposedly need a license/insurance/registration to operate a car on public roads , which is a privilege!
Yet how many people are arrested each year for driving with no license , insurance , registration , etc.
Unfortunately to the point where it just becomes a shouting match. Which is why The Five is no more viewable than The View. The difference being that on The Five no one disagrees whereas on the The View the clucking hens always agree and drown out the token conservative. My record for watching either show is two minutes.
The biggest exception to all of this is Charles Krauthammer. Incredibly articulate, and insanely smart.
They certainly can. Just as soon as he stops making money for Fox or they tire of paying his contract. That's why MSNBC fired Don Imus. Ratings down, big salary. Suddenly, like Captain Renault, they were SHOCKED, SHOCKED, I SAY, to find out that Imus was crass, crude, rude, and made politically incorrect statements. So they fire him. And of course paid him handsomely to settle his law suit, but that's a different topic.
His crack legal team need only do a search for Terry v. Ohio and they will get their answer. Took me less than two seconds to find it. The key words in the decision being "articulable suspicion".
BuckeyeChuck
Member
People watch Bill O'Reilly?
george minze
Member
WOW O'Reilly isn't perfect! Imagine that, who would have guessed that.....He is like most east coast folks...knows TA TA about firearms.. How would he like many of his generation no military service, no background with firearms..Sounds a little like Joe doesn't he. I'll admit it would be hard to get one up on Joe and his discription of shot gun usage for his wife....God help us all...We are going to need all the help we can get.......Is the 2nd admendment that confuseing???? I thought it was pretty self explanatory....SHALL NOT INFRINGE
george minze
Member
Wouldn't most of us......Krauthammer looks at O'Reilly in wonderment some times....Notice O'Reilly is carfull not to interupt Krauthammer...I guess he is aware of his lack of mental matter compaired to Krauthammer..As well he should....
QUOTE: Well if I may play devils advocate for a moment , there is precident for that thinking. All civillian owned machine guns were registered under the 1934 GCA and there has been no confiscation and practically ZERO crimes committed with legally owned & registered machine guns.
So, how many violent criminals own legal, registered machine guns?
So, how many violent criminals own legal, registered machine guns?
feralmerril
Absent Comrade
Bill is right about a lot of stuff but wrong on guns. I watch him a lot but he really rubs me wrong with his ego and self importance. When he has barney miller on both remind me of two high school buddys getting together years later with a sense of humor that only they understand with each other.
This entire gun law thing should only be discussed from only one standpoint and that is the purpose of the 2nd amendment. Its for just one reason we have it. That is so that a wrongly elected dictator can never have his way with us. Obvisely there will be collateral damage with every law, rule, policy or anything else that can be dreamed up. I belive it a mistake to be pulled into argueing hunting, target shooting, collecting or whatever.
We didnt worry about collateral damage to end world war two when we bombed japan and killed a quarter million people. How many of those were kids? I aint saying that it didnt need doing.
I look at this the same way. We reasoned it was better than being enslaved, and we should also know and agree that to stay safe as a nation there will be a cost for freedom. Its not a perfect world and wont be until the lord returns.
This needs to be attacked from two areas. Identifing the mentaly ill and doing something about it and putting guards in schools.
Yeah, there will be some home accidents, murders etc but that wont hold a candel to our entire nation being ruined and enslaved. If our country go`s down that also means there wouldnt be a free spot on earth afterwards. There is a price for everything.
This entire gun law thing should only be discussed from only one standpoint and that is the purpose of the 2nd amendment. Its for just one reason we have it. That is so that a wrongly elected dictator can never have his way with us. Obvisely there will be collateral damage with every law, rule, policy or anything else that can be dreamed up. I belive it a mistake to be pulled into argueing hunting, target shooting, collecting or whatever.
We didnt worry about collateral damage to end world war two when we bombed japan and killed a quarter million people. How many of those were kids? I aint saying that it didnt need doing.
I look at this the same way. We reasoned it was better than being enslaved, and we should also know and agree that to stay safe as a nation there will be a cost for freedom. Its not a perfect world and wont be until the lord returns.
This needs to be attacked from two areas. Identifing the mentaly ill and doing something about it and putting guards in schools.
Yeah, there will be some home accidents, murders etc but that wont hold a candel to our entire nation being ruined and enslaved. If our country go`s down that also means there wouldnt be a free spot on earth afterwards. There is a price for everything.
straightshooter1
US Veteran
I am almost always surprised by the number of folks who watch TV.
I rarely do. If there is a movie I want to see, or a particular series, then I may watch it, more likely I will record it and watch it later, especially if there are any commercials so I can fast-forward them out.
I get my news from various sites on the 'net and local news via the site for my local paper. That way I am not subjected to other "stuff" I don't care about, and can click on "back" if the article is not interesting or skewed in some manner.
I don't need some entertainer posing as a journalist (read that as BO) to tell me what he thinks about something or to give me his take on anything.
If there is something I want to follow, I generally pick FOX for news about it, but just don't need BO or Greta or ... to analyze it for me.
I am capable of researching facts and claims and do it generally on my own. I think I am well-informed and can hold my own if in a conversation relating to current events. I just don't get my information (and certainly not my opinions) from people paid to get ratings for their employers.
They used to call the TV the Boob Tube. I still do.
Bob
I rarely do. If there is a movie I want to see, or a particular series, then I may watch it, more likely I will record it and watch it later, especially if there are any commercials so I can fast-forward them out.
I get my news from various sites on the 'net and local news via the site for my local paper. That way I am not subjected to other "stuff" I don't care about, and can click on "back" if the article is not interesting or skewed in some manner.
I don't need some entertainer posing as a journalist (read that as BO) to tell me what he thinks about something or to give me his take on anything.
If there is something I want to follow, I generally pick FOX for news about it, but just don't need BO or Greta or ... to analyze it for me.
I am capable of researching facts and claims and do it generally on my own. I think I am well-informed and can hold my own if in a conversation relating to current events. I just don't get my information (and certainly not my opinions) from people paid to get ratings for their employers.
They used to call the TV the Boob Tube. I still do.
Bob
feralmerril
Absent Comrade
But, but bill is looking out for us! I did enjoy seeing him lose it lately with a couple guests. Kind of reminds me what I head my dad tell someone years ago "Dont insult my intellegence".
OReilly is generally conservative and relevent. However, when it concearns firearms he is a typical NY/Long Island Liberal and this is not to denigrate anyone residing in those areas. It is to denigrate city lefties that shoot their mouths off about things of which they know nothing or very little.
ANY new laws in my opinion would be an INFRINGEMENT on the Second Ammendment because we already have thousands of aws on the books to do all of the things they want to render new laws for. Just an old country boy's humble opinion.
ANY new laws in my opinion would be an INFRINGEMENT on the Second Ammendment because we already have thousands of aws on the books to do all of the things they want to render new laws for. Just an old country boy's humble opinion.
crankyoldlady
Member
Who is Bill O'Reilly?
Is that the guy who brags about always being invited to the White House Christmas party?
Is that the guy who brags about always being invited to the White House Christmas party?
I typically don't watch any of the talking heads. Really get turned off when there are three or four of them yelling and trying to talk over each other all at once...<click> to USA Network and an NCIS rerun.
I try to read the news from a variety of sources on the internet (conservative, middle of the road and even a few to the left when I can stomach it) and then form my own opinions on things.
I try to read the news from a variety of sources on the internet (conservative, middle of the road and even a few to the left when I can stomach it) and then form my own opinions on things.
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