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It's getting to the point I'm more worried about catching one from being caught in a crossfire, or "he looked like a bad guy & I thought he was a threat", from "friendlies", than from a bad guy. Does that make me ANTI 2nd, NO. Am I concerned about the huge #'s of CC permits being issued daily, YES. It's kind of hard to argue with the fact that the more guns out there (not being adequately secured), the more guns are going to end up in the hands of kids or criminals. NOW the need for us to be more responsible & careful is greater than ever, IMO.
Got any facts to back up your concerns, or is this just speculation? With gun ownership and CC permits on the rise, I have not noticed any upward trend in the news of friendly crossfire, something you can be sure would make headlines in the anti-gun media.
 
When CC is discovered: an opportunity to educate?

I am VERY new to the gun culture, so apologies if this is idealistic and/or naiive...isn't this an opportunity for CC owners to educate the media-brainwashed public? Instead of retreating deeper into the shadows, if an unintended exposure occurs, seems like I might let someone know, "I am sorry if I scared you (kind, reassuring smile). That is not why I am carrying. I am carrying to protect you (or the inclusive "us") from the guys who do want to scare you".

Now I am NOT advocating carelessness or flaunting, and this presumes you are carrying within the limits of the law. That being said, if someone spies a glance under your coat at your shoulder holster, or detects an outline at your belt line, and you are legal, why behave defensively?

Turning around a culture that is increasingly unfriendly to the 2nd Amendment is a change that we are all at the center of. You don't change someone's mindset by hiding. You change it with a friendly invitation to learn the facts.
 
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I am VERY new to the gun culture, so apologies if this is idealistic and/or naiive...isn't this an opportunity for CC owners to educate the media-brainwashed public? Instead of retreating deeper into the shadows, if an unintended exposure occurs, seems like I might let someone know, "I am sorry if I scared you (kind, reassuring smile). That is not why I am carrying. I am carrying to protect you (or the inclusive "us") from the guys who do want to scare you".

Now I am NOT advocating carelessness or flaunting, and this presumes you are carrying within the limits of the law. That being said, if someone spies a glance under your coat at your shoulder holster, or detects an outline at your belt line, and you are legal, why behave defensively?

Turning around a culture that is increasingly unfriendly to the 2nd Amendment is a change that we are all at the center of. You don't change someone's mindset by hiding. You change it with a friendly invitation to learn the facts.

What you will quickly learn Mr. Charles, is that they aren't interested in the facts! They ONLY want YOU disarmed...so they can "feel" safer.
 
I am VERY new to the gun culture, so apologies if this is idealistic and/or naiive...isn't this an opportunity for CC owners to educate the media-brainwashed public? Instead of retreating deeper into the shadows, if an unintended exposure occurs, seems like I might let someone know, "I am sorry if I scared you (kind, reassuring smile). That is not why I am carrying. I am carrying to protect you (or the inclusive "us") from the guys who do want to scare you".

Now I am NOT advocating carelessness or flaunting, and this presumes you are carrying within the limits of the law. That being said, if someone spies a glance under your coat at your shoulder holster, or detects an outline at your belt line, and you are legal, why behave defensively?

Turning around a culture that is increasingly unfriendly to the 2nd Amendment is a change that we are all at the center of. You don't change someone's mindset by hiding. You change it with a friendly invitation to learn the facts.



Thank you for your perspective, sir. I don't have time to look them up, but in a series of very inspiring threads awhile back, one of our member LEOs, Mr. Faulkner, did just as you said, and turned a seriously anti-gun couple around. They had moved to Arkansas from a very anti-gun area, and complained to him in a restaurant about the patrons carrying. He proceeded to educate them, even taking them to a CCW class he helped teach, and between him and the sheriff, they led the couple to see their error and change their view. I don't remember all the details, but the situation was similar to the one discussed here.

Though there are indeed many folks who would respond as Protected One has suggested, there are others who will respond positively, if we handle the situation properly.

Regards,
Andy
 
What you will quickly learn Mr. Charles, is that they aren't interested in the facts! They ONLY want YOU disarmed...so they can "feel" safer.

I agree about them not being interested in facts, but they really don't care about feeling safe. What they really care about is being able to control every thing you do in your life.
 
Thank you for your perspective, sir. I don't have time to look them up, but in a series of very inspiring threads awhile back, one of our member LEOs, Mr. Faulkner, did just as you said, and turned a seriously anti-gun couple around. They had moved to Arkansas from a very anti-gun area, and complained to him in a restaurant about the patrons carrying. He proceeded to educate them, even taking them to a CCW class he helped teach, and between him and the sheriff, they led the couple to see their error and change their view. I don't remember all the details, but the situation was similar to the one discussed here.

Though there are indeed many folks who would respond as Protected One has suggested, there are others who will respond positively, if we handle the situation properly.

Regards,
Andy

Good for them. Personally, I don't carry to educate...I carry to protect - myself, loved ones, and (in certain situations) others.
I'll leave the educating to you guys.:cool:
 
What you will quickly learn Mr. Charles, is that they aren't interested in the facts! They ONLY want YOU disarmed...so they can "feel" safer.

@ P.O., yes, there will always be those, "Don't confuse me with facts, I know what I know!" types, or worse, like the guy in the doctor's office who freaked out at the beginning of this string.

I look at it like missionary work. Nobody is going to learn anything new unless we present what we know. After we do, we step back and let them decide for themselves.

Of course, this isn't an approach for everybody. But we do know what will change if we do nothing, right?
 
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Stuff happens in the real world, lesson learned, sounds like you handled the issue well!
 
While this is true, the OP does get some of the blame.

I don't know the laws in DE, but here in CA allowing your holster to show could be considered brandishing. Yes, I know, it's stupid, but this is the world we live in.

For a gun owner some of your postings scare the **** out of me. Please stop sticking up for the idiots who run your state!!

It isn't mine any longer.........after 40 years in Sillycon Valley I got out of Kalif and will never go back!!

The OP did NOTHING wrong - in his state!!
 
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Simple answer is to have a brief case in the car.

Carry it in a natural fashion and no one will feel threatened.

Just be sure not to leave it sitting somewhere........:cool:

I have a Maxpedition bag that I carry everywhere! The people that I work with jokingly refer to it as my "man purse." What they don't know is that I have a Colt .38 Super in my bag, along with a reload. While it's not my preferred method of concealed carry, I'll always have a gun within arm's reach, and it's so routine for me to have the bag, no one ever questions it.
 
For a gun owner some of your postings scare the hell out of me. Please stop sticking up for the idiots who run your state!!

It isn't mine any longer.........after 40 years in Sillycon Valley I got out of Kalif and will never go back!!

The OP did NOTHING wrong - in his state!!
I don't know why that scares you. I'm not "sticking up" for any of the stupidity here. Just pointing something out. If the guy hadn't seen it, none of this would have happened.
 
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