Pachmayr vs. Hogue

[wolverine]

Afternoon savit260;


Nice looking Pinto you have there.

Any chance you can post a picture of your R/H grip on the frame with the L/H grip removed next time you have the grips removed for some reason?

I would really like to see how much those grips fill behind the rear frame.

 

[savit260]

Afternoon savit260;


Nice looking Pinto you have there.

Any chance you can post a picture of your R/H grip on the frame with the L/H grip removed next time you have the grips removed for some reason?

I would really like to see how much those grips fill behind the rear frame.

Thanks!!
Unfortunatly I'd have to take a razor knife to the grips to do that, as they're molded as one piece. No separate left and right panel. They are open at the front in order to slide over the backstrap to get them on the gun.

I'm not sure if you're referring to the area behind the trigger guard, or the area where the backstrap is enclosed.

The area behind the trigger guard certainly has much less area filled than the Hogue's which for me was a big issue. By comparing pics of Hogues installed you can see how little distance there is between the bottom of the trigger guard and where your middle finger would land. It's much closer to the bottom of the trigger guard.
There is much more room in this same area with the Pachy's allowing for a higher girp.


If you're referring to the area at the top of the backstrap, here's a pic that might help without taking the knife to my grips.




A little bit of material is added at the top of the backstrap which does increase the reach to the trigger a little bit, but being that the top of the grips are fairly slim, I don't find the increase there to be a problem.

In a perfect world, I'd like the backstrap open though.

 

[mg357]

I own a police trade-in S&W Model 64-5 and it has Pachmayr grips on it, and they feel very good.

I have handled Brand new S&W revolvers with Hogue grips on them.

because they where the S&W Factory supplied hogue grips.

Long story short i think both types feel good but that is just my experience of course.

 

[AZretired]

I have Pac Compacs on one J frame and Professionals of a 2" M64. Love em, don't like the rubber Monogrips but I do have a set a Goncalo Alves Monogrips on my M65 and they are great!

 

[CCantu357]

Pachmayr for me.

Purchased this 627 new, and on it's first trip to the range I was a bit unhappy with the groups I was shooting double action.

After the first few cylinders full, I started trying to figure out what was going wrong.

Figured out fairly quick that the Factory Hogues were forcing my hand too low on the grip. The filler behind the trigger guard and all the finger groves were moving my hand lower than where I wanted it to be. Trying to overcome this was causing me to turn my wrist and putting the palm swell in an odd spot making for a less than comfortable experience.

Went home a bit disappointed and hoped that swapping the grips would "cure" the problem. Not a great feeling to have, considering this was the first brand new gun I'd purchased in a long time.

The quick solution was to hit up the LGS and as luck would have it , they had the Pachy Presentations that I figured would solve the problem.

They did the trick, and now I'm quite happy with the groups I'm getting and my hand is more where I want it to be.

PLUS I think they look much better. win win.

For my hands the Pachy's are better all around.

I agree the Hogue grips do seem to force the hand low. That is a nice wheelgun, I do not see many Presentation Pachs on new style revolvers, they look great on her. Like a modern day, rubber version of the old Target Grips.

 

[KarmannGhia]

I just love the look of Pachmàyr grips on a stainless gun.

 

[kbm6893]

Pachmayr for me. I like the gripper grips. Backstrap still exposed and they follow the overall shape of the frame. They just look like they were meant for the gun. I like the medallions too The Hogues are too skinny, squishy, and longer then they need to be. The one piece design seems to trap moisture more and you can't read the serial number on the trip with Hogues on. Something that is required at every range qualification with the NYPD. The vast majority of cops carrying revolvers in the NYPD dumped the wood Magnas and put on pachmayrs. The gripper grips have a little window cut into the bottom of the trip to see the serial number.

 

[Batts]

Thanks!!
Unfortunatly I'd have to take a razor knife to the grips to do that, as they're molded as one piece. No separate left and right panel. They are open at the front in order to slide over the backstrap to get them on the gun.

I'm not sure if you're referring to the area behind the trigger guard, or the area where the backstrap is enclosed.

The area behind the trigger guard certainly has much less area filled than the Hogue's which for me was a big issue. By comparing pics of Hogues installed you can see how little distance there is between the bottom of the trigger guard and where your middle finger would land. It's much closer to the bottom of the trigger guard.
There is much more room in this same area with the Pachy's allowing for a higher girp.


If you're referring to the area at the top of the backstrap, here's a pic that might help without taking the knife to my grips.




A little bit of material is added at the top of the backstrap which does increase the reach to the trigger a little bit, but being that the top of the grips are fairly slim, I don't find the increase there to be a problem.

In a perfect world, I'd like the backstrap open though.

Those Presentation grips have more filler to reduce the DA 'hump' at the top of the backstrap than my Decelerators.

I only shoot SA and could use a little more reach to get the trigger just right on the pad of my finger.

The Decelerators are a nice 'rubbery' rubber that is comfortable even shooting 45Supers in my 625JM.

Since neither is very compact, I will look for some Presentations.

I don't suppose they are made from the same material?

Batts

 

[44wheelman]

One thing they have in common is that they all land here:

Haa...got a box that looks just like that.

The only rubber grips I like are the ones with factory logo's/medallions

 

[savit260]

Those Presentation grips have more filler to reduce the DA 'hump' at the top of the backstrap than my Decelerators.

I only shoot SA and could use a little more reach to get the trigger just right on the pad of my finger.

The Decelerators are a nice 'rubbery' rubber that is comfortable even shooting 45Supers in my 625JM.

Since neither is very compact, I will look for some Presentations.

I don't suppose they are made from the same material?

Batts

They seem to be made of the same stuff as a set of Compac's and Grippers that I've shot with in the past. I'd assume the Decelerators are made of the same material.

 

[one eye joe]

I know rubber grips are just plain ugly, but is it just me or do the Pachmayr grips really seem much comfortable than the Hogues? On the other hand I have noticed the fit and finish of the Pachmayrs are not as good as they used to be, or maybe I just got a bad batch. Though when shooting full house loads that covered backstrap is a blessing![/QUOTE
I LIKE THE PACHMAYRS MUCH MORE THAN THE HOGUES. THEY FIT SMALL TO MEDIUM HANDS VERY WELL. THEY GIVE GOOD GRIP AND CONTROL, AND DAMPEN RECOIL VERY WELL--ESP WITH THE COVERED BACK STRAP MODELS. I SWAP THEM ONTO MY REVOLVERS, IF I INTEND TO SUBJECT THE GUN TO HARD USE OR A HARSH ENVIRONMENT. THEY SPARE YOUR NICE GRIPS FROM DAMAGE, AND GIVE GOOD PROTECTION TO YOUR GUN IF DROPPED. IMHO, THEY LOOK GOOD ON STAINLESS GUNS. I HAVE COLT PACHMAYRS--WITH THE GOLD COLT MEDALLIONS--FOR MY SNAKES. THEY ARE VERY NICE. BELOW ARE TWO 686s WEARING COMPACS AND PRESENTATION GRIPS. I DO WISH THAT THEY WERE AVAILABLE WITH S&W MEDALLIONS…...

 

[OldGyrene]

Bought a used Mod. 351PD .22 Magnum last year, which came with a Hogue Monogrip already installed. I removed the Hogue grip because it would catch the material of shirts I wore, and "print" because of that rise in material. It felt good when shooting, but was a bit of overkill regarding control of the piece, since it is only a .22 Magnum, not a .357 Magnum. I installed generic J-frame laminated grips, which were shorter than the Hogue grip, and didn't catch my clothing and give away the fact I carried concealed.

Have a Hogue grip glove for an I.O. Inc. "Hellcat" .380 semi-auto, which is a Ruger LCP clone. The Hogue grip was intended for the Ruger LCP, but I had to make some adjustments for it to fit my pistol. It greatly helps with felt recoil in that light, skinny pistol with a square-shaped backstrap that digs into the web of the hand. Also helps fill my hand when I draw the piece. I plan to keep it.

Also have a used Mod. 13-2 bull barrel, square-butt K-frame .357 Magnum which came with Pachmayr grips installed. Wonderful control and recoil management regardless of bullet weight fired out of it. A few years later, I got a hankering for a newer set of Pachs for it, and bought a clamshell grip with finger ridges on the front strap. Was somewhat disappointed with the poor fit of the newer Pachmayr grip even though it was specifically made for K-frame square-butt S&W revolvers. The grip itself was also much "skinnier" or thinner than the old one, with gaps where the clamshell didn't close completely when the retention screw was tightened. It didn't "fill my hand" the way the old Pachs did. However, there was no loss in accuracy due to the sloppier fit.

Also own another "brand" of revolver, a Rossi 461-02 round-butt K-sized .357 Magnum 2" snubby, which came with Rossi rubberized grips that seemed long (as the Hogue grip was on the 351PD), so I sought and bought a Pachmayr clamshell for it. The Rossi Pachmayr grip is different from the ones for S&W handguns because the pin at the bottom of the grip frame is not a thin pin, but a button on each side 1/4" in diameter. The Pachmayr grip still has a gap at the frontstrap, but it feels better in my hand and helps me get "on target" almost instinctively.

Must mention that I have a Pachmayr grip glove (?) which is on my Beretta BU9 Nano. It has a finger ridge on the frontstrap and help fill my hand as well.

Both brands of grips on all my pieces work well. There is sufficient room on revolvers to allow easy use of speed loaders. I've noted no interference with magazine release buttons or seating magazines in the wells of my outfitted semi-autos.

 

[AlwaysUp56]

I like the feel of the Pachmayr's......Hogues just don't fit my hand as well.

I put Pach's on my revolvers I'll be using for any outdoors activity or at the firing range for the comfortable feel, and I don't want to scratch-up a good pair of wood stocks (the wood can always be put back on for "show and tell" ).


Don

....and sell! I always thought a set of wood grips just help to sell a revolver. Makes them look pretty

 

[Bofuss]

I've used Pachmayr and Hogues. Pachmayr just fits my hand better.

I fully agree with this statement. The only thing I don't
like about Pachmayr is the way the mounting screw gets
in the way of the mainspring.

Does Pachmayr sell a slightly version addressing the fit issue?

K Morris

 

[loveaffair#686]

I've come to prefer Pachmayr grips over Hogue (though I like the Hogue bantam grips) as far as rubber grips go. The Hogue grips just feel...hollow...to me, like I'm not gripping something solid. With the Pachmayrs I feel like I'm holding onto something much more substantial/solid.

 

[CO_Kid]

I'm the opposite. I'll take Hogue over Pachs any day. I had the monogrip on my model 10 when I bought my 19. The 19 came with the original wood and a set of decelerators. After shooting the 19 with the decelerators, they did not reduce the recoil well for me at all. Got home and switched the two. Went back out another day and ran full house 357's through the 19 with no problem at all.

Guess they just fit my hand better.

 

[BobR1]

I have both. My 4 Inch revolvers that I shoot in matchs all have Hogue monogrips.

My concealed carry revolvers almost all have Pachmayer Compac or Compact Professinal grips.
My 315NG came with them.
I have put them on my:
10-5 Round Butt 2" Snub
15-5 Square Butt 2" snub
64-6 Round Butt 2" Snub
SP101 w/2.25" barrel
GP100 w/3" Barrel and Adj Sights. (New Old Stock)

I really like the Pachmayer Compac Grips on the Ruger SP101.

For whatever reason the Pachmayer Compac GP100 grips have been dropped. Lyman the present owners of Pachmayer needs to rethink that one. With the Compact Lette style grips no longer available from Ruger, their is a real void needing filled for a small concealable grip for the GP100. My guess is the front seam fit was needing addressed, and instead of fixing the problem, they quit making the grip.
The Pacjmayer Compac Grip makes my 3 Inch Adjustable Sight GP100 into a revolver that I do conceal carry.

Just My 2 Cents

Bob

 

[CO_Kid]

I found a set of the Uncle Mike's combat grips and put them on my S&W Model 49. Wow those are nice. Too bad they stopped making them. But for all of my other revolvers (S&W and Colt) I prefer Pachmayr. I really like the Compac for my round butt K frames. For all others I prefer the Gripper though I have a few Presentation grips as well. I've tried real hard over the years to like the Hogue revolver grip design, but it just did not work for me. Now I did like the Hogue grips that I put on my Sigs - back when I owned Sigs.

I didn't mention them because they weren't initially mentioned, but the Uncle Mikes are by far my favorite. I have a set on my 619. Unfortunately they are round butt conversion to square so they won't fit my model 19 or I'd already have put them on the 19. The prices are going up on the used market now.

 

[slimjim9]

My concealed carry revolvers almost all have Pachmayer Compac or Compact Professinal grips.

What makes you pick on or the other for a particular gun? I got the Compac for my M36 and it is great for recoil control at the range. I'm not sure it would be as good for carry, at least not for pocket.

 

[bodyarmorguy]

Pachmayrs