Modified
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What an excellent post!
Smith & Wesson N Frame Stocks / Grips - A Reference Guide
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helilogger
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OP
Updated/added some photos and information! Thank you everyone for the positive feedback.
Yes, the .455 2nd model is a N frame.
diecidecimi
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Thank you very much for this job and thread. I’m egoiste....: I’d enjoy such a can of worms!!!!
Edit: I found it! Thx
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Lou_the_welder
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Subscribed! Great thread.
Hoosier45,
Thank you for your outstanding treatise on stocks/grips. As reflected above by so many members, it truly is an excellent piece of documentation on a very convoluted subject matter.
As I carefully read thru your post, with appreciation and agreement of the great detail, two items came to mind that might be considered for addressing of even more minutia:
First is an area of such obscurity, examples are unrecognized and/or almost nonexistent; the changes of medallions in 1929:
• 2/11/1929 - Gold plate over brass recessed medallions ordered reinstated in wood stocks but with ‘convex’ stock circles;
3/18/29 changed to flush mounted, flat gold plated;
April 1929 finally changed to flush mounted, flat chrome plated over brass thru WW II.
Tuskoid Magnas did not make an appearance until well after the very short window of gold med usage. Most I've seen, and that's just a few, had .500" flat silvers but they do seem to exist with flat gold: http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-ha...-tuskoid-tuscoid-grips.html?highlight=tuskoid
Second, Combat's post #23 referenced the earliest rendition of "Coke Bottle" stocks.
One of the rarest of factory target stocks, which are the early 1950's special-order-only Smooth non-relieved target stocks, the first known as "coke bottles" documented in the SCSW by Jim King II, shown on Pg. 38 and specifically described on Pg. 39 in the 4th Ed. They exhibit longer wood behind the trigger guard, obvious flare at the butt, as well as a pronounced palm swell much more suggestive of coke bottles than later checkered cokes with football relief. I've only seen two pair and they were both of Birdseye Maple. Here's one:
Photo/ownership: weatherby
Once again, thank you for your auspicious effort,
Thank you for your outstanding treatise on stocks/grips. As reflected above by so many members, it truly is an excellent piece of documentation on a very convoluted subject matter.
As I carefully read thru your post, with appreciation and agreement of the great detail, two items came to mind that might be considered for addressing of even more minutia:
First is an area of such obscurity, examples are unrecognized and/or almost nonexistent; the changes of medallions in 1929:
• 2/11/1929 - Gold plate over brass recessed medallions ordered reinstated in wood stocks but with ‘convex’ stock circles;
3/18/29 changed to flush mounted, flat gold plated;
April 1929 finally changed to flush mounted, flat chrome plated over brass thru WW II.
Tuskoid Magnas did not make an appearance until well after the very short window of gold med usage. Most I've seen, and that's just a few, had .500" flat silvers but they do seem to exist with flat gold: http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-ha...-tuskoid-tuscoid-grips.html?highlight=tuskoid
Second, Combat's post #23 referenced the earliest rendition of "Coke Bottle" stocks.
One of the rarest of factory target stocks, which are the early 1950's special-order-only Smooth non-relieved target stocks, the first known as "coke bottles" documented in the SCSW by Jim King II, shown on Pg. 38 and specifically described on Pg. 39 in the 4th Ed. They exhibit longer wood behind the trigger guard, obvious flare at the butt, as well as a pronounced palm swell much more suggestive of coke bottles than later checkered cokes with football relief. I've only seen two pair and they were both of Birdseye Maple. Here's one:
Photo/ownership: weatherby
Once again, thank you for your auspicious effort,
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Steve,
By "later 1917 style" grips, I presume you mean checkered with flat, flush chrome plated medallions which is correct.
R.A. stamping could be anything including initials, but for sure not a factory mark.
By "later 1917 style" grips, I presume you mean checkered with flat, flush chrome plated medallions which is correct.
R.A. stamping could be anything including initials, but for sure not a factory mark.
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Oh you mean the smooth concave top grips.
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Great thread! Thanks everyone for all the hard work. Answered my stocks question of earlier today.
Fantastic thread!
Thank you, Hoosier45 and everyone who has contributed to this repository.
This is most helpful as I begin my next quest for the correct stocks for my newly-purchased .44HE-2nd Model (shipped March, 1927).
Now, thanks to you, I know.
-Bill
Thank you, Hoosier45 and everyone who has contributed to this repository.
This is most helpful as I begin my next quest for the correct stocks for my newly-purchased .44HE-2nd Model (shipped March, 1927).
Now, thanks to you, I know.
-Bill
Great thread and amazing OP. It shed some light on these non-relieved diamond walnut targets with black washers which I sold to a forum member some time ago. I honestly forget where I got them, but it strikes me they were mis-matched to a later N-frame I purchased at a gun show.
According to this thread, they were probably shipped around the middle 1950s.
It's interesting that the finish on these appears to be the untreated wood with just an oil-rubbed surface.
John
According to this thread, they were probably shipped around the middle 1950s.
It's interesting that the finish on these appears to be the untreated wood with just an oil-rubbed surface.
John
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Rather unique situation….
Just found this forum and have spent a good bit of time reviewing it…GREAT info and obviously a lot of time taken to compile it.
I think my situation is probably a little unique. I have a 9+ Mod 27 (no dash), S/N S199105, 4 screw revolver (~1959 it appears) with what looks to be Magnas w/o the diamond (68-71 per the above) although they look like they could be the original grips - underside of grips were whistle clean with no marks or fingerprints visible.
The grips have no serial markings on the exterior at all, but have a handwritten “N” on the inside left grip and what appears to be “434” stamped on the inside of the right grip.
I figure the best course of action is to get a letter from S&W and see how it was originally shipped and then restore it to that configuration (unless someone has some great insight which could help). I’ve seen that recommended in several threads but have yet to run across the current name or the exact address to send the request to. Can someone help me out?
Raf
Just found this forum and have spent a good bit of time reviewing it…GREAT info and obviously a lot of time taken to compile it.
I think my situation is probably a little unique. I have a 9+ Mod 27 (no dash), S/N S199105, 4 screw revolver (~1959 it appears) with what looks to be Magnas w/o the diamond (68-71 per the above) although they look like they could be the original grips - underside of grips were whistle clean with no marks or fingerprints visible.
The grips have no serial markings on the exterior at all, but have a handwritten “N” on the inside left grip and what appears to be “434” stamped on the inside of the right grip.
I figure the best course of action is to get a letter from S&W and see how it was originally shipped and then restore it to that configuration (unless someone has some great insight which could help). I’ve seen that recommended in several threads but have yet to run across the current name or the exact address to send the request to. Can someone help me out?
Raf
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...Ben
