Parts for .22 HE 2nd Model

[buff51]

I bought a decent looking 2nd Model .22 HE. The seller is giving me a partial rebate since I discovered the double action is not working. The double action sear on the hammer is pretty worn. It also needs an adjustable sight.

I know these are bound to be very hard-to-find parts, but this is the best place I know to look. Any help is appreciated.

 

[glowe]

I assume you are referring to a K-22 HE, 2nd Model? There is also another earlier 22 HE, 2nd Model and that was called a Ladysmith. It sounds like you need a new hammer and a rear sight assembly. Both parts can be tough to find, but with just over 1,000 made, it is worth the hunt.

 

[cgt4570]

K22-40 hammer

Buff,

If you mean one of these for a pre-war K22-40 Masterpiece, I have one that's near new. See pic below. I might own the only one left in captivity.
I picked it up as a spare for my K22-40, but I shoot it so rarely, unless I drop it and break the spur off, I can't see ever needing it.

If you mean for a 2nd Model M frame Ladysmith, I had a new one I got from Poppert's, but I recently traded it. Larry might have another. Look him up and send a message or call.

 

[buff51]

Parts I need for the 2nd Model Ladysmith.

 

[merl67]

Parts occasionally show up on ebay. I have a 3rd model that wouldn't hold single action, also had the forcing cone blown out from someone shooting 22lr. I found a parts gun at a gun show for $100 and was able to fix both issues. When you say adjustable sight you mean this is a target model? Pictures please...
I wonder if parts from a 3rd issue would work ?

 

[buff51]

Pictures

I presume this is a target model because it originally had the adjustable sight, but it has a short barrel. That is part of the reason I wanted it.

 

[raljr1]

Last time i looked, Collectors firearms in houston had a couple of parts guns for sale...not cheap...

Robert

 

[glowe]

Does the barrel match the frame serial number? I believe there is a possibility that the barrel with a forged front sight barrel is a replacement or an alteration?? The only target Ladysmiths I have seen had a target front sight, but not sure if any would have been made without it?

 

[buff51]

Gary, you are right. It's a hybrid. The frame and sideplate have SN 4779, whereas the barrel has SN 13531 B. Do you know what the "B" means?

 

[Club Gun Fan]

"B" means blue finish. Good luck in your search. I saw your gun recently and considered by it myself.

 

[teletech]

The target frame is the interesting part, likely the barrel was changed to deal with a split forcing cone as so often happens with these. I have read that double-action is pretty fragile on those guns though I'm not sure why that is exactly. I did see a long target barrel for sale on one of the usual auction sites a few days back if you would rather have that configuration.

 

[buff51]

Yes, I'd be interested in that target barrel.

As for the double action, I believe the double-action sear on the hammer is worn, because the trigger does not pick it up unless I hold the hammer back just a hair. It occurs to me that this could also be caused by the rebound slide not holding the hammer back enough.

 

[glowe]

A couple suggestions. I would have the hammer sear rebuilt by a accomplished gunsmith and that would take care of the DA action issue. I think they wore simply because there was not much metal involved and the ledge on the hammer was both thin and very narrow.

Second, a nice trick to deal with the barrel that is on your gun is to have the front sight fitted with a taller target blade. It only involves grinding off the half moon and slotting the base to insert the sight held in place with a pin just like the long barrel versions. I think it would make a great looking short barreled target Ladysmith!

 

[merl67]

There is a fly and spring for a Smith and Wesson Ladysmith listed on ebay that might be exactly what need to fix thr double action on your ladysmith

 

[mmaher94087]

My eyes tell me that this revolver is a 3rd Model Ladysmith.

 

[buff51]

Yes. Funny thing--the serial number on the barrel is 13531, but the frame and sideplate both have 4779 on them. Clearly, it is a 3rd model because of the shape of the grip, but the numbers on the frame are much too early.

I managed to fix the double action issue by cleaning the double action sear and polishing the bottom, where it connects with the trigger, then I stretched the spring a bit and made sure it was properly lubricated.

 

[mmaher94087]

I suspect that you have a 2nd Model round butt frame with 3rd Model square butt stocks. The barrel is 3rd Model and that is why everything seems a bit weird. Glad you got the DA fixed.

 

[buff51]

No, it is definitely a square butt pistol. Look at the photos.

 

[glowe]

I suspect that you have a 2nd Model round butt frame with 3rd Model square butt stocks. The barrel is 3rd Model and that is why everything seems a bit weird. Glad you got the DA fixed.

Take a look at post #6. We would love to see the serial number on the bottom of the but-frame?

 

[mmaher94087]

I guess I didn't comprehend what I was looking at. It's definitely a square butt. I'm with Gary; I would like to see the butt serial number as things just don't compute.