They are installed at the factory. Centered on top of the gun, at least to what the installer thinks is centered. They are NOT sighted in. Factories don't spend time sighting guns. You get what you get.
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They are installed at the factory. Centered on top of the gun, at least to what the installer thinks is centered. They are NOT sighted in. Factories don't spend time sighting guns. You get what you get.
Ed Fowler
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For a fixed sight if you wanted to adjust it or windage you could use a lead hammer place the frame between two lead anvils and wham it. Or twist the barrel a little, maybe file a little off the back face where the barrel meets the frame to allow better alignment of the sight. Some gunsmiths know these tricks.
For elevation it is the old file trick on the front sight, or silver solder a little more metal to the top of the sight. You could also make some adjustment with a file on the fixed rear sight for windage, you just had a wider window.
Or you could shoot it a lot learn where it shoots and adjust your aim accordingly.
Just some of the little tricks, but they worked.
For elevation it is the old file trick on the front sight, or silver solder a little more metal to the top of the sight. You could also make some adjustment with a file on the fixed rear sight for windage, you just had a wider window.
Or you could shoot it a lot learn where it shoots and adjust your aim accordingly.
Just some of the little tricks, but they worked.
amazingflapjack
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Unless someone gets in the drivers seat pretty soon, whoever owns the company now will trade on what used to be with the poorly crafted stuff coming out of there until no one buys the current production guns. IMO old is now the only gold.
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Unfortunately I have also experienced a lack of quality on my PC model 41.
The issue is a fault in the barrel that is causing the bullets to tumble
I have been waiting 6 months so far for a replacement barrel from the Aussie distributor............
The issue is a fault in the barrel that is causing the bullets to tumble
I have been waiting 6 months so far for a replacement barrel from the Aussie distributor............
Ed Fowler
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I bought a barrel for next to nothing because bullets were tumbling. All I had to do was look through he bore and knew why, a ring of crud had developed just ahead of the cartridge mouth and was squeezing the bullets under size as they passed through. Pulled a bronze brush through the bore a few times, then some Lewis lead remover, more cleaning and now it is one of my most accurate barrels.
I've been reading about the demise of S&W for my 10 years here, somehow they just seem to confound the bleacher reports.
160+ years and counting
Do they have issues, doesn't everyone?
Their stock is at or near a 5 year high, the stock has been Platinum for those who invested.
And then there's this, much to the chagrin of the experts.
160+ years and counting
Do they have issues, doesn't everyone?
Their stock is at or near a 5 year high, the stock has been Platinum for those who invested.
And then there's this, much to the chagrin of the experts.
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I've been reading about the demise of S&W for my 10 years here, somehow they just seem to confound the bleacher reports.
160+ years and counting
Do they have issues, doesn't everyone?
Their stock is at or near a 5 year high, the stock has been Platinum for those who invested.
And then there's this much to the chagrin of the experts.
Hahaha.... ain't that the truth!!!! Now we're talkin FACTS!!!!
Ed Fowler
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I was at the factory in the late 60's, there is not a person in that photo that I recognize, they must have a high turnover rate!
I was at the factory in the late 60's, there is not a person in that photo that I recognize, they must have a high turnover rate!
Yes, you would of thought after almost 50 years they would still have all the original employees on payroll.
For some of us, the late 60's seem like yesterday.
Having spent a fair numbers of year in a manufacturing plant, as a die maker, I've seen two things happen over time. There has been a huge advance in machining techniques. These advances allow manufacturers to make products that were either impossible or extremely difficult (and expensive), easy and cheap. It also had a secondary effect of eliminating several jobs that had required skilled workers. That isn't to say that running a CNC machine doesn't require skill, but you can teach someone to be very proficient on a CNC machine, especially if it only runs a few programs, in a lot shorter time than what it takes to teach a person to be a competent gunsmith, even if it's only on a few models of firearms.
The second thing that I've noticed is it can be very difficult to get and retain good help now days. I can't say with certainty why that is, but I see signs in several locations for auto mechanics. Like gunsmiths, good mechanics don't sprout overnight, and if the signs I see are any indication, there's a shortage of them, at least in my area.
So while computer controlled 5 axis cutting machines make a higher quality initial part, you still need competent and qualified people to assemble the end product. I'm sure all the ownership changes S&W has gone through over the years has had a detrimental effect. If you have skill, and looks like your job may be in danger of changing or disappearing, it's a real incentive to look for work elsewhere.
S&W has been at the forefront of firearms for a long time, and their current business strategy of offering custom guns via the Performance Center is a great idea. Let's hope they can keep the concept going and make the quality top notch.
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Lucky you. Unfortunately, my barrel is squeaky clean.
I can see an area of "difference" in the bore, about an inch from the crown. I am not sure what it is, but the finish and reflection on that part is just different to the rest of the bore.
The Aussie distributor has ( apparently) ordered a replacement barrel, which is due in country in April.
Hopefully there are no problems with this new one and I can enjoy the M41's legendary accuracy.
If that fails, I will just have to purchase a "Clarke" or similar. Not sure where I will get one down here though.
The Performance Center use to be a seperate entity housed in an old airplane hanger behind the main factory. Shooters and talented engineers worked with skilled gunsmiths making some very nice handguns.
Now it is just another assembly line in the factory adding some slightly better triggers to replace the lousy factory triggers, and stamp the famous seal on some run of the mill handguns.
Of course an exhorbitant price tag accompanies the seal. But that is about all you get. Unless you count the return shipping tag.
Pretty much sums it up!....... I will be holding on to my mid-90 PC guns!!!
I have been saving for a model 627 wheel gun in 357Cal for a while now and hope they don't cheapen it any further or raise the price for less quality again. They were and possibly still are the prettiest handgun I have ever fired. Balance was perfect with the wood grips for me and the 5" barrel on it.
