highaltitude
Member
Can I ask what you did to fix it ?
Possible Problem with My 9mm Shield
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Can I ask what you did to fix it ?
Stone and polish. Remove all friction you can. Polish the trigger bar where that slide bump pushes it out from under the sear. Polish where the bar rubs the sear. Polish the bump that pushes the trigger bar. Polish the rails.
I almost quit when I had the gun to the point where it would return to battery when pointed down, but not when held level. Thought about adding a washer shim to the recoil spring but didn't want to go that route.
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Did S&W do anything to improve the gun? Or was it like it never left you?
Ya, anytime you ride the slide forward you are begging for some type of problem.. Sling shot the slide and let the round forefully be sent into the chamber
My EDC is a Shield 9mm, with me pretty much 24/7. When I go to bed for the night i simply unholster the shield and place in a drawer, then when I get up I simply reholster the gun. So basically my EDC gun becomes my Home Defense gun. Like many on this forum I have many many guns available to me a a "Home Defense" gun. But my shield is the one thats most readily available.
My EDC is a Shield 9mm, with me pretty much 24/7. When I go to bed for the night i simply unholster the shield and place in a drawer, then when I get up I simply reholster the gun. So basically my EDC gun becomes my Home Defense gun. Like many on this forum I have many many guns available to me a a "Home Defense" gun. But my shield is the one thats most readily available.
They did nothing at all. I called and asked and they said it was within spec. So I have to assume it was designed to hang OOB if bumped.
It was something that gnawed at my mind and I couldn't live with it.
I have no other guns, except some of my rifles that have bolts that twist and lock their lugs, that will hang OOB.
I have never heard of any of the new full size M&P's hanging. Or the compacts. None of my third gens hang. None of my .22 handguns hang.
I had one gun and one gun only that would hang out of battery. Why? I think the design is lacking. Too much gun in too small of package maybe. Poor machining maybe.
Whatever it was, I didn't like it and wouldn't live with it. S&W didn't fix it so I did. Now I'm happy.
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I think in the end I am going to put another 500 rounds through it. I live in Illinois, so I won't even be able to carry it till about March. If it hasn't loosened up after about 500 more rounds, I will revisit the issue.
Rastoff
US Veteran
I think this is wise.
Thank you for all of your help.
Will41
Member
My Shield does this. So, I sent it into Smith, and they told me it was fine.
If I dryfire with snap caps, it is much more difficult to cycle the slide. My wife's Shield is very easy to cycle when dryfiring. With mine it is like something is binding.
It shoots great!
If I dryfire with snap caps, it is much more difficult to cycle the slide. My wife's Shield is very easy to cycle when dryfiring. With mine it is like something is binding.
It shoots great!
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Couple of things, if you live in Illinois and think that the IL idiots in office (ILIO) are going to have the CCW in place by March you are probably not elgible because of what you have been smoking to make you think that.
Next (and much more important); all semi auto handguns are built to be within certain tolerances. These tolerances must all balance, slide and rotating parts friction, trigger, and locking lugs or other locking mechanisms. Altering one may unbalance another. Since no semi auto handgun can be considered reliable for preservation of life till it has fired at least 250 rounds without any failure, I would suggest doing that initially, loading the chamber by "slingshotting" as it gives the gun a little more oomph than using a slide lock release. From all of the above it seems that the last few mm of slide sticking are caused by the next cartridge in the mag pressing upwards, or the locking" lugs" not quite being broken in. In a proper holster there should be no reason for the slide to move rearward at all, and a press check can be done and the slide pushed back into battery(I tried this about a thousand times with my sons' Shield, and it worked)-well maybe no a thousand, but I had to try hard to induce a hang up as his gun is pretty slicked up. I firmly believe that this "sticking" is caused by the gun not being lubed properly or enough, but most of all by not enough "shooting in" of the gun.
Just my .02, YMMV.
Next (and much more important); all semi auto handguns are built to be within certain tolerances. These tolerances must all balance, slide and rotating parts friction, trigger, and locking lugs or other locking mechanisms. Altering one may unbalance another. Since no semi auto handgun can be considered reliable for preservation of life till it has fired at least 250 rounds without any failure, I would suggest doing that initially, loading the chamber by "slingshotting" as it gives the gun a little more oomph than using a slide lock release. From all of the above it seems that the last few mm of slide sticking are caused by the next cartridge in the mag pressing upwards, or the locking" lugs" not quite being broken in. In a proper holster there should be no reason for the slide to move rearward at all, and a press check can be done and the slide pushed back into battery(I tried this about a thousand times with my sons' Shield, and it worked)-well maybe no a thousand, but I had to try hard to induce a hang up as his gun is pretty slicked up. I firmly believe that this "sticking" is caused by the gun not being lubed properly or enough, but most of all by not enough "shooting in" of the gun.
Just my .02, YMMV.
skypilot7103
US Veteran
Lube it slingshot it and shoot it. It will work itself out just fine. They seem to be tight from the factory. Probably over a thousand rounds now and it gets better every time at the range. This is a really good fire arm.
checkmyswag
Member
Its like an AR. Dont ride the charging handle or you have to use the forward assist. Just let it slam home.
maybe I missed it but did anyone suggest just looking? There is a hole in the top of the chamber that you can just look through to see a round in the chamber. Press check is not necessary with the Shield. Mine is always loaded so it's a non issue with me. I confess to looking through the little hole often anyway and even a press check once in awhile just in case but not necessary.
Rastoff
US Veteran
Yes, there is a loaded chamber hole in the top of the slide/chamber. Still, it's small and it's easier to see a round or not with a chamber check. Done properly it's safe and the only way to be sure a round loaded.
SMMAssociates
Member
I can't see anything through that hole reliably .... "Mr. BG, please wait until I get my flashlight" isn't going to fly, either....
My M&P's are always loaded when carried. Empty when stored. Not a big deal.... But the press check is indeed more positive.
That said, if it doesn't clear up in about 1,000 rounds, then there may be a real problem. Probably the chamber is close to the small side. A good local smith ought to be able to polish that out.
Regards,
.... "Mr. BG, please wait until I get my flashlight" isn't going to fly, either....My M&P's are always loaded when carried. Empty when stored. Not a big deal.... But the press check is indeed more positive.
That said, if it doesn't clear up in about 1,000 rounds, then there may be a real problem. Probably the chamber is close to the small side. A good local smith ought to be able to polish that out.
Regards,
mlapaglia
Member
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Chapter and Verse please or is this just a strongly worded opinion? This is a sincere question. I have not heard this before as an absolute. Id like to know the source please.
I will carry a gun after it has reliably fired 100 rounds of my practice ammo (same weight and power as my carry ammo) and at least 2 magazines of my carry ammo have reliably fed and fired with no hiccups.
After that, I will continue shooting my carry gun at least 50 rounds each range trip, and it must always have no failures or it gets taken from rotation until I determine the failure cause and it then proves itself again.
I had to take my beloved 4513TSW out of my holster after it had a feeding failure. I could find nothing that caused the problem except maybe really old recoil springs. It has new springs now, and hopefully I will soon be able to run it through my testing process and again carry the gun.
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After that, I will continue shooting my carry gun at least 50 rounds each range trip, and it must always have no failures or it gets taken from rotation until I determine the failure cause and it then proves itself again.
I had to take my beloved 4513TSW out of my holster after it had a feeding failure. I could find nothing that caused the problem except maybe really old recoil springs. It has new springs now, and hopefully I will soon be able to run it through my testing process and again carry the gun.
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