Post your aftermarket trigger group experiences....

[crazykg85]

Email from Rock River

This is copied and pasted from my email:

"The triggers are designed for the AR-15 which is a .223 and not recommended for the 22LR with the blowback system. the system is very harsh and will damage the trigger/hammer. This issue is not covered under the warranty on the trigger group."


THANK YOU,
B.J. BLICK
REPAIR / TECH. SUPPORT
[email protected]

 

[RedNeck Jim]

So i installed the CMC Trigger... the Hammer Spring seems WAY stronger than the Timney... I mean it Hurt my Finger when i was Stopping it to do my LB's tests... it really PINCHED it...LOL

Now you see why I pulled out my Timney & replaced with the CMC.

 

[stavman11]

Now you see why I pulled out my Timney & replaced with the CMC.

went and shot the AR Sport today with the CMC trigger...

WOW

Sweet Trigger.... gunna pull it and put it in my 15-22 and put the timney in my AR Sport

The CMC for sure tightened up my Groups..... Cant wait ta se what it does in my 15-22 and the Slidefire

 

[Majorlk]

This is copied and pasted from my email:

"The triggers are designed for the AR-15 which is a .223 and not recommended for the 22LR with the blowback system. the system is very harsh and will damage the trigger/hammer. This issue is not covered under the warranty on the trigger group."


THANK YOU,
B.J. BLICK
REPAIR / TECH. SUPPORT
[email protected]

Then please explain why the PC version of the 15-22 comes with RR2 INSTALLED FROM THE FACTORY.

The statement from that guy is BS. there's no way the forces on the hammer and trigger from a .22LR blowback action are greater than from a .223.

 

[RedNeck Jim]

CMC triggers are in both my AR & 15-22. I have no idea if it is the best drop in but all I know is it drops in easy, strikes hard & is real easy to pull.

 

[surfdog76]

This is copied and pasted from my email:

"The triggers are designed for the AR-15 which is a .223 and not recommended for the 22LR with the blowback system. the system is very harsh and will damage the trigger/hammer.

This issue is not covered under the warranty on the trigger group."


THANK YOU,
B.J. BLICK
REPAIR / TECH. SUPPORT
[email protected]

^^^ Thanks for posting! I also just received RRA's reply answering the same question. RRA's reply to you was what I really wanted to know.

1) There are known problems with the trigger breaking in 15-22's.

2) Bottom Line: "Running an RRA NM 2-stage trigger in a 15-22 voids the warranty".



" The two stage trigger is not recommended for the 22LR platforms."


THANK YOU,
B.J. BLICK
REPAIR / TECH. SUPPORT
[email protected]

 

[cjt50]

This is copied and pasted from my email:

"The triggers are designed for the AR-15 which is a .223 and not recommended for the 22LR with the blowback system. the system is very harsh and will damage the trigger/hammer. This issue is not covered under the warranty on the trigger group."


THANK YOU,
B.J. BLICK
REPAIR / TECH. SUPPORT
[email protected]

I have a RRA 2 stage trigger in one of my 15-22s. (not a PC model) It has fired over 10k rounds and shows no signs of adverse wear. In fact it has done nothing but smooth out to a very nice trigger assembly.

I think Mr. Blick is blowing smoke to avoid a replacing a defective unit. Especially since it's the standard trigger for the Performance Center version of the 15-22.

 

[Majorlk]

I have a RRA 2 stage trigger in one of my 15-22s. (not a PC model) It has fired over 10k rounds and shows no signs of adverse wear. In fact it has done nothing but smooth out to a very nice trigger assembly.

I think Mr. Blick is blowing smoke to avoid a replacing a defective unit. Especially since it's the standard trigger for the Performance Center version of the 15-22.

That is exactly my thought.

 

[straightshooter47]

I think someone should let S&W know they are being exposed to some future litigation because of Mr. Blick...and then we can sit back and watch the fur fly...

 

[crazykg85]

1.) I have not read anywhere, including the smith-wesson website that the two stage trigger in the 15-22 is made by RRA. Can somone provide the link?

2.)I have a hard time believing that S&W would put a competitors trigger in one of their rifles. I am withholding judgment on RRA and this situation until it is confirmed.

 

[crazykg85]

I think someone should let S&W know they are being exposed to some future litigation because of Mr. Blick...and then we can sit back and watch the fur fly...

I responded to the email with a request that a warning be labeled on RRA's website and with the paperwork that comes with the trigger stating that this trigger is not meant for .22lr firearms. He responded that he would forward that information.

 

[imashooter2]

I just installed the JP reduced power spring kit with the stock trigger and hammer. The pull is a bit lighter, but I have to say I was expecting a more dramatic difference in feel.

 

[Majorlk]

The JP spring kit only reduces the trigger pull by one pound average. Without polishing the hooks on the hammer and trigger, the spring kit is a waste of time and money.

With polishing the engagement surfaces you can generally reduce the trigger pull to about four pounds. More than that and you'll have to invest in a decent aftermarket FCG.

 

[surfdog76]

1.) I have not read anywhere, including the smith-wesson website that the two stage trigger in the 15-22 is made by RRA. Can somone provide the link?

2.)I have a hard time believing that S&W would put a competitors trigger in one of their rifles. I am withholding judgment on RRA and this situation until it is confirmed.

^ I've been unable to find anything from S&W confirming this either... Anyone else?

 

[C5GUY]

I have CMC's in my MP15-22, my MP10 and also my Colt M4 and have run them all with no issues. I have measured the trigger pulls from a low 3.2lbs to a high of 3.7lbs. Neither of the installs were drop-ins other than my Colt but the return is worth the effort. In fact I actually ordered and had the CMC prior to finding my MP10.

 

[Majorlk]

1.) I have not read anywhere, including the smith-wesson website that the two stage trigger in the 15-22 is made by RRA. Can somone provide the link?

2.)I have a hard time believing that S&W would put a competitors trigger in one of their rifles. I am withholding judgment on RRA and this situation until it is confirmed.

S&W doesn't make triggers, they get them from the same suppliers that most of the AR people use for basic FCGs.

I can't quote the threads but there have been several posts from folks stating S&W told them the match triggers are RR2.

 

[crazykg85]

S&W doesn't make triggers, they get them from the same suppliers that most of the AR people use for basic FCGs.

I can't quote the threads but there have been several posts from folks stating S&W told them the match triggers are RR2.

The first part definitely makes sense.

But there are a couple different manufacturers who make two stage triggers (Jewel, Geissele, CMMG, RRA- if they all are sharing something to some extent).

 

[Hobie1]

Here are the 2 trigger groups. Guess which group was the one that was in my PC and the set I purchased.

I found by using Flitz, J-P YELLOW springs and an allen screw I got my 15-22s triggers to work quite smoothly and reliably.
BTW, I sold my PC and bought a Sport.

 

[crazykg85]

Here are the 2 trigger groups. Guess one was in my PC and the set I purchased.

I found by using Flitz, J-P YELLOW springs and an allen screw I got my 15-22s triggers to work quite smoothly and reliably.
BTW, I sold my PC and bought a Sport.

This helped answer my question! Thank you.

 

[Majorlk]

The first part definitely makes sense.

But there are a couple different manufacturers who make two stage triggers (Jewel, Geissele, CMMG, RRA- if they all are sharing something to some extent).

There are more than the ones you list.

FWIW, S&W doesn't list ANY of their parts suppliers, so it's not surprising they aren't saying who they buy the FCGs from.