Preferred every day carry cartridge?

Preferred carry cartridge

  • 9mm

    Votes: 109 32.8%
  • 22LR

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • 45 ACP

    Votes: 43 13.0%
  • 45 Long Colt

    Votes: 5 1.5%
  • 357 Magnum

    Votes: 28 8.4%
  • 38 Special

    Votes: 74 22.3%
  • 380 ACP

    Votes: 27 8.1%
  • 40 S&W

    Votes: 15 4.5%
  • 25 ACP

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Other

    Votes: 27 8.1%

  • Total voters
    332
In the wintertime I carry a 686+ three inch loaded with Remington 158 grain 357 hollow points. I do the same if I go to town. On my morning walks and around the house in warm weather I usually have my Governor with me with one 410 bird shot for snakes followed by five 45 Long Colt hollow points. Occasionally I will stick my 642 in my pocket loaded with Gold Dot 135 grain +p.

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Most of the time, I carry an M&P 40c in 357 SIG. When I want to go lighter, I carry a Shield 45. I've shot them a lot, with 16,000 rounds through the 40c and 8,000 though the Shield, so I know they'll work when I need them to.
 
Seeing as I've never had to shoot someone in 16 years and have never had a dramatic Hollywood style shoot out (and hope I never do) I usually opt for 38 Special or if I want light carry depending on my activity, 22 Magnum.

If I want to step it up, 357.

I always carry a J Frame or snub nose.

Used to tote Glocks and high caps off and on. Don't anymore. Love revolvers.

YMMV.
 
Life's lessons hast taught me....

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...This picture tells the story.
The bullet impact on the left is a 9mm and the strike on the right is .357SIG.




A Pic is worth a thousand words and this Pic says it all...

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My first choice would be 9 x 19mm.

Why?

Because modern 9mm SD ammo very nearly matches the performance of 357 magnum ammo, while allowing me to carry 2x (or more) the round count in a smaller, and more easily concealed package....

I'd like to see some discussion on these two statements.

I am not very familiar with either cartridge but in recently researching 9mm was surprised to learn that it is considered comparable to 38 spl for SD purposes. And looking up .357 Sig just now, it seems to be almost, but not quite, as capable as .357.

I would find informed comments useful as I think I am at the start of switching from .38 spl to 9mm for EDC.
 
I primarily carry .38 and .45 handguns. Occasionally a 9mm. Based on where I live I always carry Hornady Critical Defense or Critical Duty. I live near the PRNJ and occasionally have the need to travel there. Hollow points are restricted for carry there.
For whatever reason, while is is a reliable expanding ammo, it is not considered a hollow point bullet due to the polymer filler.
I trust it is as reliable as any other modern defense ammo for a reputable manufacturer.
 
I do love a beautiful SW and enjoy taking mine to the range occasionally. I love the functional art (my auto correct just put in funeral art which might be apt) but I do not carry.
I'm not into that whole Killin thing. I'd rather talk my way out of it or stick my hands up if confronted with a guy with a gun. I'm not going to go reaching for one if he's already pointing his at me.
I realize I may be in the minority on this site but for me, guns are not for shooting people. I'd rather live in that mindset than have a tool on my waist that I'll know is there, and might just be tempted to use when I shouldn't, or if there's another option in a bad situation. I just don't like the idea of walking the streets with a loaded gun.
Just me, anyway. I'm brand new to gun ownership so I'd rather eyre on the side of extreme caution.
Of course, some may say that carrying is being cautious.
I get it. It's just not for me.
With that said, if there's a bad guy with a gun and he's going nuts, I'd be happy to see one of you guys stop him as quick as possible, in which case a SW bodyguard is small and powerful enough.
 
..I just don't like the idea of walking the streets with a loaded gun.
Just me, anyway. I'm brand new to gun ownership so I'd rather err on the side of extreme caution..
It seems to me that your reasons for not carrying a gun are largely philosophical, which is fine. It is certainly not for everyone.

If you think, as a new gun owner, however, that you would like to become safer and more proficient with guns, you might consider training courses, starting, as you have perhaps already done, with basic safe handling and how to shoot, and then moving on to more advanced courses. There's a lot available, and many of us enjoy the training. (For what it's worth, I would not carry a gun unless I'd had professional training.)
 
My first choice would be 9 x 19mm.

Why?

Because modern 9mm SD ammo very nearly matches the performance of 357 magnum ammo while allowing me to carry 2x (or more) the round count in a smaller, and more easily concealed package....
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I'd like to see some discussion on these two statements.

I am not very familiar with either cartridge but in recently researching 9mm was surprised to learn that it is considered comparable to 38 spl for SD purposes. And looking up .357 Sig just now, it seems to be almost, but not quite, as capable as .357.

I would find informed comments useful as I think I am at the start of switching from .38 spl to 9mm for EDC.
Ask and ye shall receive.

Compare the performance of 9mm SD ammo in real 3" semi-autos
BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: 9mm Luger Results

To the performance of comparable bullet weights in 357mag in real 2" barrel revolvers
BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: .357 Mag Results

Why would we compare two different barrel lengths? Because those are the barrel lengths you get when you are comparing a sub-compact 9mm pistol (like my P365) to a J-Frame 357mag revolver that is very close to the same physical size.

Some examples:
In a 2" 357mag revolver the results for 2 flavors of 110gr CorBon SD ammo were 1134fps and 1132fps.

In a 3" 9mm pistol the results for 2 flavors of 115gr CorBon SD ammo were 1245fps and 1215fps.

So the 9mm is pushing a bullet that is 5gr heavier and it is moving at 84-111 fps faster.

For the 357mag for 2 CorBon 125gr loads the speeds are 904fps and 1050fps

The 9mm CorBon 125gr clocked 1170fps and the 124gr Speer Gold dot clocked 1108fps

So the 9mm pushed the 125gr pill a minimum of 20fps faster and as much as 104fps faster.

140gr CorBon 357mag clocked 911fps

147gr Federal 9mm clocked 902fps - only 9fps slower - despite being a 7gr heavier bullet

All in all that looks like pretty comparable performance to me for SD ammo in comparable compact SD guns.

Now, if you want to get into heavier weight bullets - like 158gr, the 9mm falls out of the competition because 147gr is about the heaviest weight bullet loaded in readily available SD ammo. BUT as many people will attest, the recoil of 158gr 357mag SD ammo is very unpleasant in a lightweight J-frame and getting back on target quickly for a follow up shot is difficult at best. Less so with lighter bullets.

IMO, this is less of an issue with semi-autos because the reciprocating action of the slide dampens some of the recoil impulse - I think of it as being kinda like a shock absorber.

Anyway, you wanted to see why I said what I said, and there you go. And yeah, my P365 with magguts kit holds 12 + 1 - as compared to a comparably sized J-frame with 5 - so I can pack over 2-1/2 times as many rounds with comparable performance in a package that weighs less and is also flatter - so it is actually smaller in one dimension.
 
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It seems to me that your reasons for not carrying a gun are largely philosophical, which is fine. It is certainly not for everyone.

If you think, as a new gun owner, however, that you would like to become safer and more proficient with guns, you might consider training courses, starting, as you have perhaps already done, with basic safe handling and how to shoot, and then moving on to more advanced courses. There's a lot available, and many of us enjoy the training. (For what it's worth, I would not carry a gun unless I'd had professional training.)

Definitely on my to do list, and probably a refresher now and then.
I think it's all about good habits that become natural. Just like anything else.
 
Interesting Poll. I would guess the younger Forum members went with 9mm and the older crowd 38 Special.

If I were only carrying medium-sized 6rd revolvers everyday, my choice would've been .357MAG, hands down. Why not get that little extra 'squeeze' of velocity out of the Magnum loads, with some weight helpful in mitigating felt recoil, everything else being more or less the same. ;)

That said, I'm about to head over to meet a friend at one of my cigar clubs, and the warm weather makes it pocket-holster carry, and my .38SPL +P loads are kinder on aging wrists and elbows in the little Pocket Mule J's, than Magnum loads. :)
 
Interesting Poll. I would guess the younger Forum members went with 9mm and the older crowd 38 Special.

It is interesting, in an unscientific sense. I too would have expected (guessed) different numbers, thinking the younger guys might have said 9mm and the older types .45 Auto. As usual, I was wrong. .38 Special outdistanced .45 by quite a ways. Of course speculation about age group preferences is merely that.

Much as I like the P365, and use it most often, it is not what I prefer. Laziness prevents me from using the .45 most often, but it's what I prefer.
 
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