tocohillsguy
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What's a fair price? (No, I don't have one for sale. Sorry.)
Price Check LNIB 66 no dash 2.5" barrel
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haifabuddy
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$475-600 is range I paid for 66-1s recently. NIB 66-1s on this forum went for $585 including shipping month or so ago. See them as low as $400. Gun shops will pay about $200 maximum for one.
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tocohillsguy
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Is there a premium for a "no dash"? I think the owner has a mistaken impression of its value. He thinks they are appreciating like Pythons. Also he may be looking at the Gunbroker listings of a Kentucky dealer who always seems to have nice firearms listed at what seems to me to be unrealisticly high prices.
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tocohillsguy
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Is changing the gas ring from the yoke to the cylinder a big change? What is the advantage? Are the Model 19s - 2.5" barrels more or less than the 66s?
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stiab
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Yes, there is a premium on the no-dash. I sold the one in the middle of the picture below to a member of this forum for $455 about two years ago. I would pay that and more for another one if I could find it today...
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tocohillsguy
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Yes, there is a premium on the no-dash. I sold the one in the middle of the picture below to a member of this forum for $455 about two years ago. I would pay that and more for another one if I could find it today...
Would you pay $900 to recapture one? Seems pretty high to me.
Cocked & Locked
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No-dash
tocohillsguy,
I'm beginning to conclude this is the worse place on earth to try to gain info on the value of a truly collectible S&W handgun.
95% of the responders either don't own one of the revolvers in question, haven't owned one, and tend to offer 2nd, 3rd, or 4th hand information like what "good ol' uncle Mert" told them. Everyone's entitled to an opinion but when I see someone suggesting something like $200 I have to believe they are low-balling the value in hopes of stealing one.
In its day, the '66 2 1/2" no dash was one of the most difficult S&W handguns to acquire and they remained that way until long after the dash ones were introduced. Law enforcement agencies scooped up most of the no dash and dash ones leaving few for public consumption.
They are a difficult revolver to find in any condition and if you are a collector or just want a very desirable pistol, you should jump on any reasonable opportunity to buy one. If you own one you should keep it as it is one S&W that's value will go "through the roof" in the future.
Just for INFO, I recently saw two NITB 66 no dashes, a 2 1/2 and a 4" sell for $1000 each, and they were sold to a knowledgeable and serious collector who felt he got a great bargain. Let the buyer or seller beware when you seek values so randomly...
JMHO.....
I'm beginning to conclude this is the worse place on earth to try to gain info on the value of a truly collectible S&W handgun.
95% of the responders either don't own one of the revolvers in question, haven't owned one, and tend to offer 2nd, 3rd, or 4th hand information like what "good ol' uncle Mert" told them. Everyone's entitled to an opinion but when I see someone suggesting something like $200 I have to believe they are low-balling the value in hopes of stealing one.
In its day, the '66 2 1/2" no dash was one of the most difficult S&W handguns to acquire and they remained that way until long after the dash ones were introduced. Law enforcement agencies scooped up most of the no dash and dash ones leaving few for public consumption.
They are a difficult revolver to find in any condition and if you are a collector or just want a very desirable pistol, you should jump on any reasonable opportunity to buy one. If you own one you should keep it as it is one S&W that's value will go "through the roof" in the future.
Just for INFO, I recently saw two NITB 66 no dashes, a 2 1/2 and a 4" sell for $1000 each, and they were sold to a knowledgeable and serious collector who felt he got a great bargain. Let the buyer or seller beware when you seek values so randomly...
JMHO.....
I tend to agree with TDC. I too, have sensed that certain individuals low ball estimates when asked.
In the past several years, I have purchased a very nice 19-3 snub and a very nice 66-2 snub, both ANIB but for what I thought was probably "retail".
These days, I see none, or VERY few for sale and they go for at least 25% or more than I paid!
In the past several years, I have purchased a very nice 19-3 snub and a very nice 66-2 snub, both ANIB but for what I thought was probably "retail".
These days, I see none, or VERY few for sale and they go for at least 25% or more than I paid!
A big enough change. Not as big as eliminating the pinned barrel and recessed cylinder (66-2) but IMO bigger than moving the rear sight leaf screw (19-3).
On a service revolver, Yes. It seems that after repeated or heavy use, debris/carbon from fired rounds or heating of the yoke would cause the cylinder to bind. Moving the gas ring to the cylinder deflected it away from that area.
Like everything else, it seems to be cyclic. Right now, 66s seem to be going for more than 19s but there have been times (and will be again) that the 19s sell for more.
I found 66 no dash at the gunshow over the weekend and according to the book its a 1974 which is the first year they came out 2 1/2 barrels. I got a great price on it and I tried to sell it here and no one bought it.
I put that in the safe and sold my 66-1 yesterday locally.
All depends on where you live from what I see. I travel a lot to Florida and the used gun prices to me seems a litte bit high compared to Mi but here is more unemployment which in turn less people have cash to burn on guns and prices are down.
I put that in the safe and sold my 66-1 yesterday locally.
All depends on where you live from what I see. I travel a lot to Florida and the used gun prices to me seems a litte bit high compared to Mi but here is more unemployment which in turn less people have cash to burn on guns and prices are down.
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tocohillsguy
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When and at what price did you try to sell the 66 no dash on this forum?
CT Smith Fan
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I would have to want one pretty bad to pay $900.00,but I paid a ton of money for a pre 29, go figure.In the end if you want it, you'll buy it.
I should add something more to this thread on the 2 1/2" no dash 66s...
So many non-collector assumptions are made as to value with revolvers like this. Many of the early no dash revolvers had stainless steel sights which, contrary to some perceptions, does add significantly to the value, especially if the gun is truly brand new and unfired after leaving the factory. Because the stainless sights presented a poor sight picture the sights were very often replaced with black sights with a red ramp. The remaining stainless sighted guns are becoming increasingly rare and can bring a substantial premium, especially from low profile "NIB" collectors I know.
When I see pictures of a no-dash 66 that has black sights and a red ramp I've just gotta see the model stamping for proof it is truly a no-dash and not a modified early 66 or 66-1.
Many stainless sights were apparently disgarded when replaced with black sights. All I can say is I believe if you still have them you'd be wise to keep them....
I haven't finished photographing my collection and don't have photos of the 2 1/2" no dash/stainless-sights 66s yet. I do have a picture of some 66-1s. The picture below shows a 4" with stainless sights included to balance the picture...
So many non-collector assumptions are made as to value with revolvers like this. Many of the early no dash revolvers had stainless steel sights which, contrary to some perceptions, does add significantly to the value, especially if the gun is truly brand new and unfired after leaving the factory. Because the stainless sights presented a poor sight picture the sights were very often replaced with black sights with a red ramp. The remaining stainless sighted guns are becoming increasingly rare and can bring a substantial premium, especially from low profile "NIB" collectors I know.
When I see pictures of a no-dash 66 that has black sights and a red ramp I've just gotta see the model stamping for proof it is truly a no-dash and not a modified early 66 or 66-1.
Many stainless sights were apparently disgarded when replaced with black sights. All I can say is I believe if you still have them you'd be wise to keep them....
I haven't finished photographing my collection and don't have photos of the 2 1/2" no dash/stainless-sights 66s yet. I do have a picture of some 66-1s. The picture below shows a 4" with stainless sights included to balance the picture...
haifabuddy
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If you were referring to my post, please note I have the revolvers I stated, obtained at the price I stated, and the $200 figure I gave was what a gun shop might pay to someone selling one. The almost NIB 66-1 that I purchased for $475 was purchased by the shop for $200. As for $1,000 for a NIB, some people will pay $200-400 more for a NIB, so your $1,000 figures are actually comparable.
The other information I gave about what I observed on this forum can be checked by searching. I am quite sure I made no error in describing past sales here.
Marshall 357
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Nice collection TDC I bought my 66-1 2.5'' bbl last year for $425.
I passed up a Model 66-no dash, 2 1/2" about two months ago in a gun shop for $550, now I wish I would have bought it.
