Well, I tried negotiating with the seller, but frankly, he was obnoxious. I would make him an offer, and instead of countering it, would just ask questions like "Well, if you did find this gun for sale in like new condition, how much would you pay for it?" and then he said he would take a Glock in trade... so I asked which Glock model he was looking for, and he said he was open to any model, so I offered him a Glock 23, and he said he already had one. He then said that since he was willing to take a Glock, I should have an idea of how much cash he would accept for the S&W, so I offered him $475 (since Glocks here go for about $450), and he said I was way off... finally settled on $600, which he accepted, then while trying to set up a time to meet he decided to keep the gun. I've seen him trying to sell it for MONTHS on the local gun trading website... and I met him in person at the last gun show, walking around trying to sell the S&W. Ugh.