Rogeronimo
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I ordered a case of WSPs, not cheap, but service was good. I received them in under a week.
Primers: Where They ??
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I ordered a case of WSPs, not cheap, but service was good. I received them in under a week.
nothing recently. Just 2024ish?
gwpercle
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I can tell you where they are NOT at ... Powder Valley Inc.
I clicked on primers and they showed hundreds of brands , rifle , pistol , shot gun , pages of primers ... every one marked ... out of stock !
So I clicked on available primers ... what came up ....
CCI - 50 cal. Browning Machine Gun - 500/ct.- $395.00 !!!
And that was all they had .
I've been reloading since 1967 and have never seen such a wide-spread drought of primers .
2012 was bad but you could find primers on line ... I find nothing at 7 different local gun and reloading stores in my area ... I like to buy local to avoid shipping and hazemat fees ,,, but there is nothing out there .
Gary
I clicked on primers and they showed hundreds of brands , rifle , pistol , shot gun , pages of primers ... every one marked ... out of stock !
So I clicked on available primers ... what came up ....
CCI - 50 cal. Browning Machine Gun - 500/ct.- $395.00 !!!
And that was all they had .
I've been reloading since 1967 and have never seen such a wide-spread drought of primers .
2012 was bad but you could find primers on line ... I find nothing at 7 different local gun and reloading stores in my area ... I like to buy local to avoid shipping and hazemat fees ,,, but there is nothing out there .
Gary
BOB FRONSEE
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I got me some Russian SPP, Muron is the brand. Got them from
Cheapest Ammo I haven't had any problems with them.
Cheapest Ammo I haven't had any problems with them.
Rlg#17
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Natchez has had them the last several days. Kygunco has had them inthe past several weeks. Targetsports has had them frequently in the last month or so. They are out there. Expensive? Yes. A requirement to reload a metallic cartridge? Yes.
Been to the grocery store lately? Gas station? Out to eat? Tried to buy any kind of vehicle or truck?
Regards, Rick Gibbs
Been to the grocery store lately? Gas station? Out to eat? Tried to buy any kind of vehicle or truck?
Regards, Rick Gibbs
They're definitely not in the Raleigh, NC area.
kbm6893
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As far as I am concerned, primers are gone. Haven't seen one primer in the three local shops near me since 2020. We will never see anything less than $75 a brick in any abundance ever again. I got into reloading 25 years too late.
len917
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been getting CCI commercial (white/black box) small pistol or small rifle at local reloading dealer @ $6.95/100
Rosco Shooter
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Check Target Sports USA They had several different brands and types.
ArchAngelCD
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Target is selling them for $120/K if you buy 5,000!
That price is high even for today's world.
StakeOut
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One of the usual suspects has CCI SPM and Remington 7 1/2 primers presently.
Pricey as usual too.
Pricey as usual too.
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9mmPatriot
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FWIW,
The local Scheels had SPP Magnum and LPP on the shelf yezter afternoon for $90/1k and #41's for $110/1k.
The local Scheels had SPP Magnum and LPP on the shelf yezter afternoon for $90/1k and #41's for $110/1k.
9mmPatriot
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Rlg#17
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That particular venue has been addressed in a separate thread.
1. Scam
2. Scam
3. Scam.
Anyone with primers " quite a bit cheaper", is a scam. Pay via Zelle or Venmo, is a scam. No physical address to check out is a scam.
Lotsa people losing money these days. Natchez has had them. Midway, Targetsports also. None are quite a bit cheaper.
Regards, Rick Gibbs
venomballistics
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Roam the wastelands in search of gas ... or primers.
Box stores have an edge it seems.
Cabelas had small rifle match and small rifle magnum last I was there.
Bass Pro had two flavors of large pistol.
Mom and pops dont bother to compete with them in my area.
The industry seems to be trying harder than they did in the past.
Box stores have an edge it seems.
Cabelas had small rifle match and small rifle magnum last I was there.
Bass Pro had two flavors of large pistol.
Mom and pops dont bother to compete with them in my area.
The industry seems to be trying harder than they did in the past.
I guess they have to show up first then if demand cools prices may follow. Time will tell.
kbm6893
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It's 27 months into this drought. Factory ammo is available again. They can't use the excuse it's going to factory ammo anymore. The big box stores get some in and that's it. The three local shops near me, that used to supply my primers exclusively, haven't had any in at all, and I mean zero, since April of 2020. I don't see them coming back anytime soon, if ever.
BLAME VISTA OUTDOOR!!!
I have been blaming Vista Outdoor, the parent company that owns and runs three of the four domestic primer manufacturers: CCI, Remington, and Federal, (amongst other shooting related brands).
They have been complicit in the on/off ammo and other shooting related shortages for probably five years. They took a lot of heat from customers over the dearth of common caliber ammo a year or more back.
But, what is really note worthy is their stock value. What an awful and risky investment! Roller coaster prices from over $50/share to a low of just above $10/share. When things are bad for gun owners, they're great for Vista stock holders, and vice versa. But from mid January to mid July of this year the stock fell by half from just over $51 to about $26, a near 50% loss! If they're going to try to keep their stock holders happy while trying to sell "bargain" priced 9mm ammo, then they're going to have to make up the difference by screwing over customers on things like primers. It's a stupid practice, in my opinion, because reloaders are the "long term" part of the shooting/outdoor market. Mess with your loyal long term customers and you're asking for fiscal volatility.
Anyhow, that's just my theory watching the Vista Board of Directors "clown show" of the past 4 or 5 years....
I have been blaming Vista Outdoor, the parent company that owns and runs three of the four domestic primer manufacturers: CCI, Remington, and Federal, (amongst other shooting related brands).
They have been complicit in the on/off ammo and other shooting related shortages for probably five years. They took a lot of heat from customers over the dearth of common caliber ammo a year or more back.
But, what is really note worthy is their stock value. What an awful and risky investment! Roller coaster prices from over $50/share to a low of just above $10/share. When things are bad for gun owners, they're great for Vista stock holders, and vice versa. But from mid January to mid July of this year the stock fell by half from just over $51 to about $26, a near 50% loss! If they're going to try to keep their stock holders happy while trying to sell "bargain" priced 9mm ammo, then they're going to have to make up the difference by screwing over customers on things like primers. It's a stupid practice, in my opinion, because reloaders are the "long term" part of the shooting/outdoor market. Mess with your loyal long term customers and you're asking for fiscal volatility.
Anyhow, that's just my theory watching the Vista Board of Directors "clown show" of the past 4 or 5 years....
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