I bought a couple thousand at $130 per...some guys said I was nuts, but I have the primers....and reloading is still way cheaper than new, especially since I have plenty of casings.
Robert
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Robert
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Primers: Where They ??
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Yep, it's a sad state of affairs, but if you need primers, you have to pay a premium these days.
Brownells has small pistol, small rifle, large pistol, large rifle and shotshell in stock. They have had a decent selection for a week or more. Once this becomes the norm and people stop buying everything at $100 per thousand prices will fall.
The problem is people have been panic buying everything they can get their hands on for the last 2 years. Stores had to raise prices to $100+ in order to have any quantity in stock for more than 5 minutes.
Capitol Cartridge and Zincpoint websites have LARGE quantities available of foreign primers. You can by cases of 10,000 from Zincpoint.
The problem is people have been panic buying everything they can get their hands on for the last 2 years. Stores had to raise prices to $100+ in order to have any quantity in stock for more than 5 minutes.
Capitol Cartridge and Zincpoint websites have LARGE quantities available of foreign primers. You can by cases of 10,000 from Zincpoint.
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A question not intended as a criticism... What do you mean by reloaders being the "long term" part of the shooting / outdoor market? Maybe I'm missing something here.
It appears the loading component market for handloaders (not businesses that manufacture ammo) is a very, very small one, just like it always has been. As such, demand from handloaders for components will never be treated as a huge market opportunity for component manufacturers because it isn't.
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Bought 1000 sm Mag. pistols at Bass Pro today, $89 which I didnt want to spend but….
9mmPatriot
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Stopped by a Big R Store this afternoon. Three or four months ago I was able to walk out with 2 bricks of SRP for about $60 each.
Today, a 1 tray limit at $10+, $13+ if you want Benchrest SRP's.
Nope, they've gone to the darkside.
Today, a 1 tray limit at $10+, $13+ if you want Benchrest SRP's.
Nope, they've gone to the darkside.
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While I'm pretty well stocked I felt the long term need for another brick of SP primers. Two and a half years ago I thought this would simply be another "short term" drought... Two and a half years later I can see no end in sight and what appears to be a "manipulated" shortage. As above, I recently got my brick of SP primers at the "going" rate. Not waiting any longer as this "shortage" has no end in sight as the world turns as it is. I bought them. I have them. Not worrying nor caring if prices fall. A bird in the hand kind of thinking. Others may wait... I'm good to go now in all sizes of primers until the end...
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It is manipulated. Absolutely no doubt about it anymore. I've talked to reloaders who have been reloading for half a century and they have never seen this. Yeah, everything is more expensive. But it's there. Primers are not, unless you have a big box store near you. I'm supposed to drive 200 miles round trip to maybe get primers at $85 a brick? If I knew they were there I would make the trip. I can still get anything I want right now, except for primers. I bought a new car this last February. No problem.
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It's never been a huge market, but it was always a market that was met. The companies that make these, Vista owning three of them I believe, it dribbling out a smaller amount to raise the prices. When this finally calms down, the primers will be available again, at more than double the price.
They are available if you are willing to pay the price. I try to get them with out having to pay haz mat shipping but for folks who are in need bad enough and can pay the price ammoseek has them listed under reloading.
My local Academy sent me a notice they have CCI 300 LPP in stock for $6.99. No shipping or hazmat fees. Just sales tax. I went ahead and bought 5. Looks like prices are starting to come down and name brands are becoming available. I wish they had been SPP. I still had LPP but I am out of SPP. Except for magnum.
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Seventy dollars per thousand doesn't sound too bad in these strange times, but I've still got some old primer boxes that were prices at less than twice that sleeve price for a brick of 1000. Of course that was 30 years ago! 
Seventy dollars per thousand doesn't sound too bad in these strange times, but I've still got some old primer boxes that were prices at less than twice that sleeve price for a brick of 1000. Of course that was 30 years ago!
I agree. With tax I paid $37.57 for 500 and that is almost $10 more than I have ever spent on a 1000. The thing is that not only are CCI and other name brands available, but prices are coming down. I'd really like to see the old $27 a thousand again but I'd be happy to see a little less than twice that right now.
I only bought 500 to give me a bit more to hopefully get by until prices and availability get closer to normal. And I did not want to horde and keep them away from others who are completely out. I did a search online and SPP are still $9.5 for CCI and $10 for Winchester plus shipping and Hazmat. I am not going to pay that for them. I have enough ammo loaded to not need them bad enough. If anyone local has CCI SPP for $6.99 most likely I will buy another 5. Just not going to commit to 5k+ purchase of primers at these prices.
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Couple rifles and a revolver. And plenty of rounds.
Also have a few SPP but not looking to buy anymore at these prices.
Couple rifles and a revolver. And plenty of rounds.
Also have a few SPP but not looking to buy anymore at these prices.
It is good to see this availability, hopefully the prices will come down some. I know we won't see 30 per K, but 45 or 50 would be nice and I will stock up at that price.
Jokes aside.
I was in a local store which is a distributor for CCI.
There was a CCI rep visiting, one of the customers asked why there is no real supply of primers for the public.
The rep said that there has been very large growth in startup companies manufacturing or remanufacturing ammunition. They purchase primers by the semi load where as gun stores purchase by the case.
He continued to say he felt for reloaders and feels the various primer manufacturers are looking at the large sales instead of the smaller sales. He also said he could not understand because the large sales the primers are greatly discounted compared to the smaller sales.
He also went on to say the ammunition companies are making a lot of ammunition for various countries, including the US, and don't have the manufacturing capability to increase primer production.
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This is just a thought.
I personally feel with all the ammunition on the shelves, much by companies I have never heard of, and at low prices shooters are starting to get a surplus supply in their basement that at some time in the near future, 1 year or so, these unknown companies will not be making as much ammo and hopefully will move on to a different business endeavor. At which point the primers will start appearing on the shelf in the local store.
I was in a local store which is a distributor for CCI.
There was a CCI rep visiting, one of the customers asked why there is no real supply of primers for the public.
The rep said that there has been very large growth in startup companies manufacturing or remanufacturing ammunition. They purchase primers by the semi load where as gun stores purchase by the case.
He continued to say he felt for reloaders and feels the various primer manufacturers are looking at the large sales instead of the smaller sales. He also said he could not understand because the large sales the primers are greatly discounted compared to the smaller sales.
He also went on to say the ammunition companies are making a lot of ammunition for various countries, including the US, and don't have the manufacturing capability to increase primer production.
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This is just a thought.
I personally feel with all the ammunition on the shelves, much by companies I have never heard of, and at low prices shooters are starting to get a surplus supply in their basement that at some time in the near future, 1 year or so, these unknown companies will not be making as much ammo and hopefully will move on to a different business endeavor. At which point the primers will start appearing on the shelf in the local store.
Plenty at the Ft. Worth Cabelas yesterday if you only wanted Small Rifle and were willing to pay $99.99 per thousand.
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$100 per thousand works for me.
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Not for me. I figure that if y'all cave in to that price it won't ever go lower.
Time to take the wife shopping or take the kids fishing. When the price comes down to a level reasonable for inflation + a little more, then it'll be time to stock up a lifetime supply.
I made the mistake of only buying a 5 year supply in March, 2022. 28 bucks and on sale. If I could do it over I would have bought a 20 year supply.
I just purchased Federal SPP for $89.95/1000 from Cabelas in Hamburg Pennsylvania and from my local LGS I purchased Federal LPP also for $89.95/1000 . Picked them up so there was no shipping or Hazmat fees. Not inexpensive but I'm new to reloading and pretty much have to take what I can get. Both places limited purchases to one brick of 1000 primers .Even with the primer prices being what they are I can still reload .38 special , .357 magnum and .45 ACP for less than .25 per round using my own brass. That's less than half what I can purchase those rounds for at present.
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