progressive press question

I too use carbide dies for pistol calibres. BUT!!!

Without lubing the cases they stick in both the sizing/decapping die and the neck expander/powder drop die. This causes cases to "jump" after the powder drop spilling powder.

My solution, using a standard three die progressive, is to:

- lightly spray the fired and cleaned cases.
- run the cases through the sizing/depriming die set up in it's own toolhead..
- give a light second spray to the primed cases.
- expand/powder drop, bullet seat and crimp using second tool head.
- tumble the loaded rounds for 30 minutes to remove any residue fo the lube. The cases come out like new factory rounds and feed flawlessly in my pistols.

As to the OP's question: get a factory crimp die and set it up in station 5. leave station 3 empty so that you can see the powder, or install a powder check die.

You must be wet cleaning. I have zero issues dry tumbling with a bit of polish.
 
thank you all. I'll look into a powder check die. PLEASE keep any useful tips and warnings coming. Both for me, and anyone else looking.

I plan on eventually running only carbide dies for pistol rounds, except .357 SIG. And I will still use Hornady One Shot, even with carbide dies. Just being thorough.
 
Yep, never fails. Someone mentions Lee (any product for any reason) and the Lee Haters crawl out and spew their vitriol throughout a previously good thread. I cannot understand why/how some otherwise "normal" people get so emotional about an inanimate tool and go out of their way to defame a whole company. I have Lee tools and Hornady, RCBS, Pacific, Lyman and probably more and actually the worse design of any tool I've purchased, I've come across is an RCBS product, but I don't go out of my way to defame RCBS ( the RCBS bench priming tool cannot be used flat on a bench. It must ne elevated 4" or have the handle hanging out over the bench edge. The designer was either asleep or drunk when it was designed and the company went on their "tool snob" fans who bought tools only by the color or name on the side). I have used hand and power tools for over 55 years to make a living and I know how to use hand tools. I have tried to duplicate "problems" Lee detractors have complained about and I am unable to replicate the problem most of the time... :eek:

But that's just my opinion and just like others I'm allowed...
 
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Everybody seems to produce a junk reloading item. My Bench mounted priming tool wprks fine...but it is mounted on a 1/2 plywood board. The RCBS Turret press sucks as does most ofthe Lee progressives. I also have a Hornady Ammo Plant that ...well it ain't an ammo plant
I have a Lee clssic cast turret press that works fine...excpt for the priming tool and the old Lee Target Model loaders made really good ammo. Lee dies will work but are just barely above Herter's dies in quality. Haven't mentioned Dillon because I have had no troubles with them....but I am sure some have. Most problems with reloading equipment is usually the person using it...except maybe the Lee Loadmaster...LOL Heck I had a CH Mark IV that was not very reliable.
Pretty much all can have bad equipment
 
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Tricky titles

I guess it's a sign that I've never reloaded that I figured the thread title was a comment on the current state of Journalism in the country. :rolleyes: ;)

This is the Reloading Forum that doesn't have much to do with journalism, but does have a grammar thread or two. Some people make 50+ years with one spouse, others need several. Kind of the same way with reloading presses. :)
 
Just had an idea. Add a new sub-forum titled "Whiner's forum". All "complaints" about reloading products and components can be posted there so as to leave more room on threads about other topics. That way all the "____ Haters" can have their own place to whine...
 
Yep, never fails. Someone mentions Lee (any product for any reason) and the Lee Haters crawl out and spew their vitriol throughout a previously good thread. I cannot understand why/how some otherwise "normal" people get so emotional about an inanimate tool and go out of their way to defame a whole company. I have Lee tools and Hornady, RCBS, Pacific, Lyman and probably more and actually the worse design of any tool I've purchased, I've come across is an RCBS product, but I don't go out of my way to defame RCBS ( the RCBS bench priming tool cannot be used flat on a bench. It must ne elevated 4" or have the handle hanging out over the bench edge. The designer was either asleep or drunk when it was designed and the company went on their "tool snob" fans who bought tools only by the color or name on the side). I have used hand and power tools for over 55 years to make a living and I know how to use hand tools. I have tried to duplicate "problems" Lee detractors have complained about and I am unable to replicate the problem most of the time... :eek:

But that's just my opinion and just like others I'm allowed...

And here you are...spewing your vitriol about another company's tools. I have used, sold and worked on progressive reloading tools since 1965 or before and can tell you that all compnies can make bad tools. Many times it is in the eye of the beholder. I had a couple of Lee progressive tools over the years. Oy... Get a Loadmaster to load 500 rounds without having any problems. Can't be done by the average advanced reloading afficianado. Of course I had an RCBS product that was the same way. They discontinued it for some odd reason....fairly quickly. If you are a Lee fanboy...fine. It is your(deserved) choice and opinion but don't moan and complain if their (deserved) opinion does not match yours. I'm not a Lee Fanboy but I like the fact that the Classic cast presses are made in the US of A. Not all companies presses are. Oh and I do have a couple of Lee Cast presses and a die set or two...
 
Yep, never fails. Someone mentions Lee (any product for any reason) and the Lee Haters crawl out and spew their vitriol throughout a previously good thread. I cannot understand why/how some otherwise "normal" people get so emotional about an inanimate tool and go out of their way to defame a whole company. I have Lee tools and Hornady, RCBS, Pacific, Lyman and probably more and actually the worse design of any tool I've purchased, I've come across is an RCBS product, but I don't go out of my way to defame RCBS ( the RCBS bench priming tool cannot be used flat on a bench. It must ne elevated 4" or have the handle hanging out over the bench edge. The designer was either asleep or drunk when it was designed and the company went on their "tool snob" fans who bought tools only by the color or name on the side). I have used hand and power tools for over 55 years to make a living and I know how to use hand tools. I have tried to duplicate "problems" Lee detractors have complained about and I am unable to replicate the problem most of the time... :eek:

But that's just my opinion and just like others I'm allowed...

Mostly because lee makes a lot of just poop. I have lee stuff, it works most of the time, but hard to argue that there isn't better & better usually cost more. If the point of any progressive is to make large volumes of ammo efficiently, lee is a dead last choice.
 
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I use carbide dies for pistol, no lube required. I have never cleaned a primer pocket on a pistol case, pointless imo. If you want to lube cases, Hornady Oneshot doesnt have to be removed. I also never trimmed a service pistol case, pointless.

Same here. Only cases I trim are my bench rest rifle cases. I have noticed with 45 ACP cases that if they are too short, the crimp die doesn't get the case mouth pinched enough and the round won't fit. So I remove those from service.

I've contemplated getting a progressive press but at least for now, they are not available anywhere. Besides, I just use a universal de-priming die before wet tumbling with SS pins. This way my sizing die doesn't get mucked up with powder residue, so I never have to clean it. Never have to touch the primer pockets either because they come out of the tumbler pristine. I use the RCBS hand priming tool which is fast, easy, and consistent. So much faster and easier than using the RCBS priming system on the press. You can even prime your cases while watching the football game on TV. That's why I'm not sure I'll ever get a progressive press. I may some day, but not really sure it would save all that much time, since my cases are already primed and ready to go.
 
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