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I think I am going to pick up a new progressive press. I have narrowed it down to the Dillon 550B and the Hornady LNL. And I am leaning toward the Hornady.

Any comments about either press?? Tom.
 
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Like everything else, those that own one or the other will swear that theirs is the greatest. That said, I bought a Dillon 550 in 1986. I load 5,000 to 8,000+ each year in a variety of pistol and rifle calibers. My Dillon was out of service once when the crank pivot pin seized because I didn't lube it. Dillon replaced all of the parts, including the crank, pivot pin, and snap rings. They also sent me the drift pin used to drive the pivot pin out, all free of charge. They have the best warranty in the industry as far as I am concerned. Here, take a sip of this blue kool-aid.:D

Frank
 
I bought the LnL in 2004. I've put 134,000 documented through it. I had to send it in for repairs around 85,000. The set screws holding the sub-plate to the top of the ram worked loose. Hornady rebuilt the entire press in a couple weeks. Not sure how any other warranty program would be better. I needed my auto index pawls replaced, and the auto index star replaced this last month. Free in the mail two day delivery. I really appreciate the auto index after being without it for a couple days.

I have never pulled a handle on a Dillon, so have no personal experience. I don't own stock in Hornady, or work for them.

Hornady is easy to change calibers, has a very nice powder drop and a reliable primer/seater system. Mine doesn't have the ejector sub-plate yet. I own it, but I'm told there is a big delay getting shell plates modified, so I'm waiting until after hunting season is over.

Two of my friends have bought the LnL in the past year and are delighted.

Red koolaid is better than blue.
 
Dillon make a very good press; however, I prefer the Hornady, especially when considered on a cost-effectiveness basis. The Hornady is, effectively, closer to the equivalent of a Dillon 650, rather than the 550B, as it is a true progressive, with the turntable advancing one station per pull of the handle, whereas the 550B is manually indexed (you have to operate the turntable by hand, it is not indexed by pulling the handle). Both are very well built, and both offer superior customer support and warranty. I have an old Hornady Pro-Jector, the forerunner to the L-n-L AP, and it just keeps soldiering on. I am considering buying a new L-n-L to augment it, partially for the ease in changing calibers on the L-n-L, and leaving the Pro-Jector dedicated to one caliber. I know Mike Dillon from the aviation community, and he builds a great press, but I consider the Hornady to be its equal and, in some details, better, especially regarding ease and expense of caliber changeover. When considered in light of the high quality of both, the cost difference definitely tilts the decision to Hornady. You would be well served by either, though. Have fun, and enjoy your new press!
 
I'm gonna have purple koolaid then! 'Cause the next press I buy is going to be a Hornady L-N-L AP.

I have 3 Square Deal B's, one is with son #1, an XL650 and a couple of single stages along with a Lee Classic Cast Turret in 4 hole configuration. They all work as designed, period. The blue ones work very well and as Frank has said, the customer service is second to none. Maybe as good as others, but surely not second to any of them.
 
Mine doesn't have the ejector sub-plate yet. I own it, but I'm told there is a big delay getting shell plates modified, so I'm waiting until after hunting season is over.

"ejector sub-plate"?? What is that?? Are you sayng the regular press does not release the shell and that you have to pull it off the press by hand?? Tom.
 
I've got a 550 and a 650. I use the 650 for my .38s and the 550 for everything that needs large pistol primers.

The biggest difference is the case feeder.

Having to rotate the shell plate is no big deal on the 550. I just use my left hand thumb and move the plate right after I finish a round. Changing calibers is no problem at all, especially if you buy a separate tool head for each one. I have one set up for .303, 7.56, 44. I have separate powder measures on each so I don't need to reset the powder eigher.

Changing powder measures is no big deal though. .

I started with a Dillon 300, went to the 450 then 550 and finally lucked out on a 650.

Love their service and warrentee.
 
Used to load 9mm, 38/357, 44 & 45's on a dillon square deal. I bought a lnl & never looked back. These things are built like tanks, there's nothing better than being able to crank out a couple hundred .223's & then go out to the range to work on the rapid positions with the ar.
 
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I would find someone or a shop that has either press and put my hands on it.
I bought my 550 about 1988 and have no regrets. Dillon honored thier " Unconditional Garentee" twice. First time the powder measure actuating stub broke ..They sent a whole new powder measure. Second time the primer raceway on the frame was galling and they sent me the hardened upgrade plate. No questions asked and no need to send in the machine.
I find caliber change is very easy and fast as my fingers can move.
So would I buy another.. yep.. I have 2... One set up for small primer & the other for Large primer.
 
I am a big Dillon fan. My reloading bench looks like the Dillon catalog. I started with the Square Deal and moved up to a 650. I recently added a RCBS bullet feed for pistol rounds. Its hard not to like 100 rounds in two or three mins of work. I also have a Dillon SL900 shot gun loader. Along with all the blue accessories.

Dillon stuff holds its value eBay these things bring almost what they cost new today. I have seen twenty year old machines bring more that the original buyer paid new!

The support is top notch, anything I have needed or question Ive had always helpful and knowledgeable. They also arent in India and its not"peggy" (from the TV commercial).

On the other hand people really seem to be happy with the new LnL and if its got the free bullet rebate seems hard to beat.

I would stick with the blue because you can upgrade machines and reuse lots of your items. You can go to a 650 and reuse the dies and what not, same if you go to a 1050.


I also really like the Dillon dies and the system they use. Separate seat and crimp.

Its just my opinion, others will have different.

Its the old Ford VS Chevy argument and we all know Chevys are better, or is it Fords..... :)
 
The LnL is a Dillon XL650 equivalent. The 550 is a lesser press. So to me this is an apples to oranges comparison. Of course the LnL is superior to the 550 for the same price.
 
How is it superior?

The LnL is a Dillon XL650 equivalent. The 550 is a lesser press. So to me this is an apples to oranges comparison. Of course the LnL is superior to the 550 for the same price.

When you make the statement that the LnL is superior to the 550, and I don't have one of those, how do you mean?

In quality? In accouterments available for it? In functionality?

I think I know what you are alluding to, the auto indexing feature of the LnL. I would have to agree on that one point BUT as far as quality goes, they both are quality presses.

I will be real honest with you all. I, personally, wouldn't want a progressive press that didn't have automatic advance. Call me lane brained or whatever but, for me, remembering to advance the case every time by hand would be just asking for trouble. Just me though. I know LOTS of folks that have RL550B presses. They don't have any problems at all. I'm just talking about me.

I think I could have been the poster child for the ADHD syndrome had they diagnosed it 50 years ago! We just got spanked, no medication! :)
 
Older lnl used a spring ejector, new have a fixed bump on the subplate. Hornady sells the new subplate to retrofit.
 
The reason why I am comparing these two presses is because they are comparable in price. Not necessarily in features.

The Hornady has more features for the same money as the 550B. So I was just concerned about quality issues. I am sure both have great CS, so that is not an issue.

What I like about the Hornady is the shell plate moves itself, and it has extra stations for powder checking and separate crimp stage for revolver cartridges.

The press will be set up for one cartridge only(45 Colt). So changing dies is not a big concern. The plate on the Dillon does look a little easier to use(but not sure-why I asked). So I was just looking for overall quality differences. Thanks, Tom.
 
I've got Dillons, but I got them before the Hornady presses became better made. I think that you really won't go wrong with either. I would check to compare the cost of caliber conversion and see how they compare in difficulty of changing calibers and primer sizes. I would get a case feeder if I got the Hornady auto indexing press. I would compare owner happiness with the Hornady case feeders with the Dillon, as well.
 
If your only going to do 45 Colt, I would look at the Square Deal. It has the auto index feature. They are very nice presses, I think. Its also less money!!
 
I've had my Hornady LNLAP for...around 10 or so years now.
I've broken some springs when I first got it up learning it- and Hornady has been more than happy to send me stuff for it. Their customer service is top notch- they sent me a complete sub plate when I told them mine worked loose and broke. Which it did, but when someone in my family tried to crack walnuts with it- don't ask. :(

Just know that the Dillons and the Hornady work quite a bit differently. As one of the other guys said, go try them and see which one makes "more sense." I just can't get the hang of a Dillon personally.
 
I have loaded many rounds in many calibers since 1986 on my 550 b, bought all the updates and it was flooded in 93, Dillion rebuilt or replaced everything. I may go to the 650 and keep my "old 550" My money goes to the blue.

Dave:)
 
That is a good price. How much was their shipping?? The only place I saw cheaper than that was Midway with their discount code they just sent me. Midway is $30 less with their discount(10%) If I bought the other stuff and got my Midway order up to $500 total then they would be $40 less on the press.

Problem with Midway is they tend to make up for their discount in shipping costs.

On another forum somebody pointed out something about the 550B that I had not thought about. And that was the fact that the 550B can also be used as a single stage press since it does not auto-index-and because the shell plate easily spins backwards. Tom.
 
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