PSA: Three types of cartridge failures

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***Public Service Announcement (PSA)***

There are three ways a cartridge can fail. These may be new terms for some of you so, here we go....

Ignition Failure (Dud round)
This is when a cartridge is chambered, the firing pin/striker hits the primer, but the primer fails to ignite the powder. There are different causes for this. The powder could be wet or simply inactive. The primer itself could fail to operate.
Indication- Click but no bang.
Fix- Wait 15-30 seconds and eject round. Check remaining ammo for damage or chemical intrusion. Insert another.

Squib
This is a cartridge that fails to have a complete burn of the powder or maybe has no powder. This can also be caused by partially wet powder. This is exceptionally dangerous because it usually leaves the bullet in the barrel. If another cartridge is loaded and fired there will be an obstruction and it WILL damage the gun if not cause a catastrophic failure. Most dangerous in a double action revolver because the shooter may not notice the light recoil and just press the trigger again.
Indication- Lighter than normal recoil and quieter report. Usually doesn't have enough power to cycle the slide, but don't rely on that.
Fix- Disassemble the gun and use a rod to remove the stuck bullet in the barrel. This may require a gunsmith. Check remaining ammo for damage or chemical intrusion.

Hang Fire
This is when the trigger is pressed, but there is a noticeable delay in ignition. This is the reason to wait 15-30 seconds when there is a click but no bang. If the shooter immediately tries to eject the round, it could go off just as it's being ejected. Keep the muzzle down range. This way, should there be a hang fire, the round will go harmlessly down range. The hang fire can be caused by a slow chemical reaction or it could be a mechanical problem. I have seen a gun fire because it was so dirty the hammer stayed back for a second after the trigger was pressed.
Indication- Click, but no bang initially, followed closely by a bang.
Fix- Keep the muzzle down range. Check that particular lot of ammo for any noticeable damage or strange marks on the casing.
 
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I’ve only had a couple failures to fire that I remember outside of the odd .22LR round. Both times were M855 American Eagle ammo. They both had a good primer strike but no boom. Waited a bit extracted the round and inspected it. Tried a second strike with each, no joy. Put them in the FTF can and moved on.

I hope I never have to experience a squib, even though I have a rod for such occasions.

The closest I’ve ever been to a hang fire is shooting flintlock muzzle loaders and I’d like to keep it that way.


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Have seen hang fires happen in ammo that was exposed to harsh temperature conditions (ie. storing ammo outside over winter), and old milsurp ammo of questionable origin (may have been 40s or 50s Turk?). Have had some light recoil but never a full on squib. Have had a few duds as well.
 
A squib is an intentionally underpowered load.

Aguila Colibris are squibs. 38 Target Wadcutters are squibs. CCI CB Longs are squibs. "Cowboy loads" are squibs.

Sometimes a squib will get stuck in the barrel. But getting stuck is not what makes it a squib - even though people keep insisting that's what it means. Being underpowered on purpose is what makes it a squib.
 
MAYBE BY THE DEFINITION YOU GO BY, IN YOUR WORLD.

A squib is an intentionally underpowered load.

Aguila Colibris are squibs. 38 Target Wadcutters are squibs. CCI CB Longs are squibs. "Cowboy loads" are squibs.

Sometimes a squib will get stuck in the barrel. But getting stuck is not what makes it a squib - even though people keep insisting that's what it means. Being underpowered on purpose is what makes it a squib.

By strict definition, perhaps. By COMMON usage, HERE anyway:
A round that missed getting powder, or wet powder, etc. would be called a squib here. My intentionally lower power target loads, AKA "powder puff loads" work fine. A squib in these parts would be a round that acts MUCH DIFFERENTLY (weaker) than the others, that often fail to cycle actions/ get lodged in barrels/ or otherwise act/sound way different than the other rounds, "similarly" loaded. Maybe it's cuz of the "CLIP" the ammo is loaded in.
 
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A squib is an intentionally underpowered load.

Aguila Colibris are squibs. 38 Target Wadcutters are squibs. CCI CB Longs are squibs. "Cowboy loads" are squibs.

Sometimes a squib will get stuck in the barrel. But getting stuck is not what makes it a squib - even though people keep insisting that's what it means. Being underpowered on purpose is what makes it a squib.

Well that is not the NRA definition but then it would just lead to argument, debate and fights would break out! (indeed can be a under powered load) but not necessarily Intentional)
 
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A friend of mine, a Chief Range Officer, had a hang fire with a shotgun. It fired about 10 seconds after the trigger was pulled. Due to his training he had kept it pointed in a safe direction.

Wow....10 seconds.

Brings a question....after what length of time would most consider it safe to remove the round from the chamber?

Don
 
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Wow....10 seconds.

Brings a question....after what length of time would most consider it safe to remove the round from the chamber?

Don
That's what I was taught - to count to ten to give it time to fire if it was a HANGfire instead of a MISSfire.

You see people all over the web explain how a revolver is so much better than an auto, because if you pull the trigger and it goes CLICK you simply pull the trigger again - no TAP, RACK, BANG foolishness.

But with my several decades of "give a missfire time to go off", I'd probably (if I tried to shoot someone and it just CLICKED) keep the gun pointed at 'em while I counted ten.

I'd be like them poor cops that got shot with a handful of brass - looking for the coffee can to dump their empty brass in, because that's how they did it at the range, and "as ye rehearse, so shall ye perform" (I learned that in high school band).
 
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