PTG: never again!!!!

They are not over hardened, but either not tempered or under tempered.

First it would be fully hardened to convert as much of the steel as possible to Martensite, tempered is very brittle, then the tempering decreases the size of the shard like Martensite structures to make it both softer and tougher. The temperature, number and duration of temper cycle or cycles will determine final hardness and toughness

Not so much a language purist, just want people to understand metal heat treatment

In any event, I will not bee ordering any reamers from them after the ops horror story. I have discovered that when I have a pleasant experience dealing with a company's employee everything will work out well. When I deal with an angry employee it is usually the sign that things are not well at that company and there will be more problems than anything else.

Good correction to my sloppy language, of course you are right about the temper and I do know better.

Also right about the staffing. Not just angry, but also continuity; one wrinkle I forgot to mention is the person who promised to get me the correct reamer without a price increase had left by the time the new reamer arrived.
 
PTG has been this way for decades. There is no point in trying to get anything from them. I have had Clymer reamers that wouldn't cut at all. Every time I order something from Manson, I get good service and the tool works beautifully. I'm a tool & die maker. I know cutting tools and steel heat treatment very well. I just call Manson and be done with it.
 
10 years later, still an issue!:D


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A few years ago PTG bought the inventory from the Remington custom shop when Remington closed down I purchased two of their barrel, actions and upfront. They were very forward with it may be a month or three wait time

My experience with them is very positive they even included new fluted bolts

I have not dealt with them since but my dealings with PTG have been very positive
 
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