Purchased a Sig P365 - Trigger is Mush.

[scooter123]

In my case this is the original small version of the P365, not the Extra Large. I really don't understand why Sig would take a pistol designed to be easily concealed and the Super Size it but good news is the small one is still available. Note, that may not be the case in a few years so get on now while you can. Because the Generation Whatevers seem to have a strong desired to have everyone notice they have a whopping big something in their pocket.

First, it is shootable but I find it odd that none of the reviews I've seen indicate how mushy the trigger is. I'll also admit that I have been spoiled by my Ruger LC9S Pro which has a wonderful trigger. In comparison the Sig is like dragging a wooden match across 80-100 grit sandpaper.

I'll also note that stuffing 10 rounds into the Sig magazines may leave bruises on the tip of your thumb, Uplula's are a must if you want to load more than 1 magazine. However in 40 rounds shot I didn't have any jams at all but did have one magazine that failed to lock back on empty. Most like that was a break in issue because second time around that magazine was flawless.

Sights may also be off a bit, with the target at 30 feet I was about 3 inches left using the sights. When I brought the target in to 20 feet and started point shooting I was on center. I'll also note that the pistol is not regulated for 115 grain bullets, guessing on this but I think that 147 grain loads would hit at the elevation of the sighting point. Plan on loading some 147 grain target loads to see if I'm correct on that.

A big plus is the size for the small one, it's a bit wider than my Ruger but otherwise a near perfect match for length, height, and grip length. Considering the extra 3 rounds that extra width may be worth the extra width but you will want to wear loose fitting pants.

Summing it all up and it's a decent Self Defense pistol with a rather poor trigger. Not so bad as to effect accuracy but nowhere near the quality of the trigger common to one of the Classic Sig Sauer pistols.

I'll also note that if Ruger ever decides to make a double stack version of the LC9S they won't be able to make them fast enough. I have two of these pistols and the trigger on both are fantastic. Picture a model 67 with half the trigger stroke and a 4.5 lbs. weight and you have the LC9S trigger.

 

[Farmer17]

My 365 has an excellent trigger with almost zero overtravel which is a lot more important typically than weight of pull, at least to me. The trigger is about the best thing about the 365 and if it were any lighter it would be too light for a defensive pistol. I had a Ruger LC9 not the LC9s and it was reliable and OK but I would rank the whole gun way behind the 365 and the S&W Shield.

 

[Chukar60]

I have the XL version and my daughter the X. Neither has a mushy trigger.
Hope your’s smooths out for you with some use.

 

[LVSteve]

I handled the original 365 some time ago and found the grip too small for my long, thin hands. I suspect that it would never present the same way twice from a holster for me. I've been bitten by that in the past with a Star Firestar.

We have an LC9s and I find something in the recoil characteristic disturbing. Again, it could be due to my skinny hands. My go to carry 9mm pistols are the Kahr CW9 and the Walther PPS M2. I shoot the latter particularly well.

 

[waffles]

My XL has an excellent trigger as well. Try another 365 in a shop and see how it stacks up to that trigger, if yours is noticeably trash in comparison reach out to sig.

Also not sure what your generational concern over the XL is. Not a pocket pistol, and I honestly wouldn't use the 365 for that either. Both are excellent pistols, and for my purposes I can conceal the XL just as well as the 365, get a longer sight radius, have two more rounds on board, and can put a dot on if I want. Different strokes for different folks.

 

[diyj98]

I have a P365, P365X, and a P365XL and I wouldn't describe any of the trigger as mushy, although we all have opinions on what we like. I'll agree with waffles and try the trigger on another P365 and see if it's any different.

 

[Rob613]

I handled the original 365 some time ago and found the grip too small for my long, thin hands. I suspect that it would never present the same way twice from a holster for me. I've been bitten by that in the past with a Star Firestar.

Wilson Combat grip module and a Talon were the fix for me.

 

[TheTinMan]

My 365 has an excellent trigger with almost zero overtravel which is a lot more important typically than weight of pull, at least to me. The trigger is about the best thing about the 365 and if it were any lighter it would be too light for a defensive pistol. I had a Ruger LC9 not the LC9s and it was reliable and OK but I would rank the whole gun way behind the 365 and the S&W Shield.

My P365 XL has virtually no over-travel and the weight of the trigger pull is fine. However, the only way I can described the last 1/3 of the trigger pull is spongy. There is nothing crisp about it. I will try another one if I can find it to compare triggers. However, I had to buy mine off GunBroker as no one around had them in stock or could tell me when they were due in.

The Wilson Combat grip module made all the difference in the world for me. It now is as small as it could be and handle well. Note that I do carry a 642 sometimes and used to carry a KelTec PF-9 (don’t shoot me) so small pistols aren’t a new thing for me.

 

[BC38]

My 365 has an excellent trigger with almost zero overtravel which is a lot more important typically than weight of pull, at least to me. The trigger is about the best thing about the 365 and if it were any lighter it would be too light for a defensive pistol. I had a Ruger LC9 not the LC9s and it was reliable and OK but I would rank the whole gun way behind the 365 and the S&W Shield.

I'll second all of that!
My LC9 was my EDC - until it fired out of battery in a rapid fire string and blew the extractor into low earth orbit (never found it).
The P365 was my first choice to replace it and I have never regretted that decision.
I shoot the Sig better than just about anything else I own, and I have more than a few to choose from.

 

[zeke]

I like the 365's trigger, compared to other striker fired plastic frames. The trigger pull does not come to a clearly defined stop before breaking, but does break without jerking. This makes it mush easier for me to be accurate with, than say a glock. Not sure if i worded that very well.

The only alterations made were to change the sights so the target wasn't obscured by the sight alignment, and the dots were larger and bright white. Sig offers a variety of front and rear sights to facilitate this.

 

[Breadman1]

Again the trigger on mine is fine for a striker fired pistol, nothing is going to be like an old S&W revolver.

 

[John Patrick]

I have the original size and the X.

The trigger pull on the original started good but after the first ~500 rounds it was excellent and remains excellent. By far the best striker fired trigger pull I’ve experienced.

The trigger on the X is good. I hope it improves as much as the original’s has.

Neither could be called mushy, both have minimal over travel and great, tactile resets.

Hope some range time improves your trigger pull, OP.

Also, fwiw, down and left poi May be caused by pushing the trigger because the grip frame is so small in circumference.

 

[extex]

Love my P365 and don't need a gravel grip.

 

[scooter123]

Hope some range time improves your trigger pull, OP.

Also, fwiw, down and left poi May be caused by pushing the trigger because the grip frame is so small in circumference.

Pulling the pistol down and left is rather typical for some trigger reach issues but I have a rather large hand span for my size and have always compensated by using the pad of my finger on every gun I shoot. What is interesting is that when I brought the target in to 20 feet and did some rapid fire point shooting my hits were a bit low and well centered. Which is the reason why I thing the sights are off a tick and the pistol is regulated for a heavier bullet. Today I'll be going to my club for 3 or 4 rounds of Skeet and after that plan on spending some time in the basement range in the shotgun clubhouse getting to know the P365 a bit better. Have 100 rounds of 124 grain loads and 30 rounds of 147 grain Gold Dot loads to check for the regulation.

 

[uncleted327]

I've not heard of any 365 trigger called mushy, so I would guess it's more your specific Gun and not an across the board issue. However I find the thinking that companies are "supersizing" guns laughable. The opposite is the issue because people have become soft and think they need to be able to keep their edc in the coin pocket of their jeans.

 

[Muddyboot]

I have a P365 SAS with no trigger issues, sounds like you may have had bad luck of the draw with yours. I agree about loading the mags, the last few rounds are a bear to get in.

 

[wood714]

My plain old P365 has a great trigger.

I've put a lot of rounds thru it. Mostly cheap 115gr.

 

[scooter123]

Yesterday I showed my P365 to a friend and told him to try the trigger. His comment was the trigger feels good. Then I had him try the trigger on my Ruger LC9S. The first thing he said was "holy **** that trigger is amazing".

Based on my admittedly short survey the gun buying public today really has no experience with a really good trigger, they have become used to the mush so common to many striker fired guns. So it's not a problem with the gun, the problem is that I have only had guns with truly high quality triggers such as my Ruger, four 1911's, Classic Sig Sauers (P229 & P239) and my S&W revolvers.