Question on Contractors for Home Improvements...Why No Calls Back???

Thanks for the well wishes, buddy. This is just a project and no big deal. We are pretty easy goin'. Just want to update is all. I suppose it is also my commentary...just trying to find a good company to work with.

Anyone who may be interested this is the greater Milwaukee area.

Just want to update. Quality materials and installation at a good value.

I am connected professionally to all sorts of fine folks. I try to work with the local families and companies to support our community.
 
I work for a Large Company doing home improvements. We will not do a job where the customer provides materials. I can't speak for other companies, but the reason we don't do these type jobs has nothing to do with the profit on materials. In my experience of over 20 years, most and I do say most, not all customers that provide materials buy the cheapest material they can find. They don't research and compare, they price shop. In many cases inferior materials can take longer to install than quality material because of lack of uniformity etc. Also the warranties are not as good. When a product fails, the manufacturer always blames the installer and you got a customer blaming the contractor when he just did his job. In the case of cabinets, countertops and windows to name a few, a lot of times they come in measured incorrectly and the customer expects the installer to be able to install anyway and doesn't want to pay for the added expense that come with improper measurements. Also, if the customer doesn't have the measurements correct, and material comes up short, there can be a wait for more material to come in. Now the installer loses money because they have to stop work and wait for material to come it. All the while the customer is upset because of the delays. In many cases, since the contractor buys much more material than customers, they buy much cheaper and even with a markup can provide quality material cheaper than the customer can buy their own. Another reason for having a Reputable contractor provide a turn key job is you have one person providing the warranty for the complete job. You don't get the argument from the supplier that the product failed because of the installer and the installer saying it failed because it was inferior. A perfect example is replacement windows. Most manufacturers offer a "lifetime warranty" but they will void the warranty if not installed to their specifications. If you provide material and labor, you don't have this loophole. Another area where customers wind up getting the short end of the deal is supplying shingles and having a contractor come in a installing them. Most of the big shingle manufacturers now offer a "Lifetime Warranty" on Architectural Shingles. Sounds great until you read the fine print and find out the lifetime warranty prorates after 10 years and some companies 5 years And the labor of removal and replacement of shingles under warranty is not covered. But there are factory approved roofing companies that supply all the material and you get a "Lifetime Warranty" on your job and does not prorate for 50 years and labor is included. With that long rant, I'm not saying that it is always best to let a contractor provide everything, but do the research and compare apples to apples and warranty to warranty. In many cases you will find out a Quality Contractor can sometimes be the best bang for the buck when doing a turn key job.
 
After 3 (three years), I am still waiting on quotes from 2 (two) local, so-called reputable and "high-end" contractors for some reno work on my basement. After a couple of weeks (after the aforementioned high-end guys viewed the basement and heard what I wanted done) I gave up and hired a couple of other guys who started within days and finished within two weeks. Nary a peep from the other two to this day.
 
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All contractors want to do is collect money. They aren't interested in working for it.

Or tearing into an old house opening up a can of worms problem resulting in three times the labor and time while attaching their name to a substandard outcome. Then the never ending complaint s,. The floor is not square, the wood is buckling.....etc, etc, etc....
 
Many years ago there was a sign at a local gas station that read...

"You wouldn't bring eggs and bacon to a diner and ask them to cook them for you so don't bring your car parts to me and ask me to install them."

Hmm. I do that all the time with my mechanic. Sometimes Ebay is the only place to find parts for a 23 year old car.

"You get this, I'll find that for you."
 
Years ago I lived in a townhouse, not the most well constructed townhouse and a hole developed in the soffit. I started calling companies and was told that they didn't want to do a job that small. Then I was talking to a guy at my son's basketball game and he tells me that he's a contractor and likes small jobs. I got his card, called and gave him my address, and I never heard from him.

Time passes and I get a letter from the HOA about the hole and they threaten me saying "either fix it or we'll get a contractor to fix it." I called the HOA pres. and said, "If you can get a guy to fix it, please do so."

Finally, I talked to a guy who was doing the roof on a neighbor's house and he took care it.

Apparently, contractors don't want small jobs.
 
"You wouldn't bring eggs and bacon to a diner and ask them to cook them for you so don't bring your car parts to me and ask me to install them."

I usually don't take parts in to my mechanic but he knows that I have unusual sources and sometimes he'll say, "This is pricey, see if you can get it for less."
 
Many years ago there was a sign at a local gas station that read...

"You wouldn't bring eggs and bacon to a diner and ask them to cook them for you so don't bring your car parts to me and ask me to install them."

I worked for years (off the books) at my buddies garage (1960s -70s). We had a lot of people bring in their own oil/filters, shocks, tires and want them installed. My friend made up a couple signs and had them posted in prominent places. It stated there would be a aggravation fee added for common supplied items that he could get. Whatever he could make if he supplied them he doubled the profit price he lost for instillation. Like he said I will make money one way or the other.

Out at the gas pumps the biggest pain in the butt were those Saab two strokes. The driver would pull up to the pump and ask for a exact amount of gas, then hand you the can of oil to dump in the gas tank. After a while my buddy instituted a $1.00 a can for us put in the oil (those cheap bozos bought those little oil cans by the case) We would tell them about the charge as soon as they handed us the can. Most got ticked off and left, Mission Accomplished!:D
 
We needed a bathroom remodel. Called a construction company. Large and well known in the area. Came out and measured, talked about what was wanted. About a week later they sent my wife a quote. Bathroom is less than 10 x 10. $27,000 and we were supposed to supply the tile and tub. Found a young man that had done some work for a friend. Got everything and waited on him to start. He was great and by the time we finished to total cost was around $15,000. We bought what he told us and where. Next he is going to do our half bath. Very good work. He went to college to get out of construction but the most he was offered was $14.00 an hour. He said he could make way more money doing small remodel jobs for people. He is normally 10-15 weeks out after accepting a job.
 
Apparently, contractors don't want small jobs.[/QUOTE]

It can take three days to complete and get paid for a 2 hour job. Even more when the HO "forgets" that cash payment was agreed on.
 
If i wanted someone's serious bid for construction project, would pay them for their effort. Gas nd time are very expensive for already working smaller contractor.

For auto work, the mechanic am using gets most his profit from labor. He buys his parts from local auto parts store, which is severely overpriced and does not keep my era toy truck parts in stock.
 
Many years ago there was a sign at a local gas station that read...

"You wouldn't bring eggs and bacon to a diner and ask them to cook them for you so don't bring your car parts to me and ask me to install them."

I made that mistake on my 26 YO Bronco. The tailgate glass mechanism finally failed after many annual clean ups and lubes. I found a nationally affiliated body and glass shop agreed to install my supplied parts after lengthy, after elk season, wait for appointment. I scored the parts, regulator, motor slides latch mech, connecting rods, etc (500$) and was indicated a one day job and rental car at 29$/day. It took 4 days at 45$ day rental. No local phone # for updates. I coulda done it myself in 4 hours per Utube videos. Total cost over 900$.
 
We needed a bathroom remodel. Called a construction company. Large and well known in the area. Came out and measured, talked about what was wanted. About a week later they sent my wife a quote. Bathroom is less than 10 x 10. $27,000 and we were supposed to supply the tile and tub....
Yeah, they gave you the "not really interested" price. Basically, another way of saying "we'll take the job if you throw enough money at us, otherwise, forget it"....
 
I have been using the same J-O-A-T for over 20 years. He does good work and can perform about any kind of job around the house that I can’t personally handle. Which at my age is most of them. I might be able to find someone who would work cheaper, but this guy never pushes me back on his schedule more than a week. I always buy the needed materials myself. Nice to establish that sort of relationship.
 
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I work for an electrical contractor, and I can tell you right now anyone worth hiring has already got more work than they can handle.

We weren't accepting any new work the last two months of 2019. We were booked that far out.

Damn this booming economy anyway ;)

Speaking of what was posted a couple of years ago....

Just a few months after my original post in January of 2019, I ended up being furloughed for a couple of months - due to COVID basically shutting everything down.

After a couple of months furlough, I went back to work for that same contractor for about 6 months - until I got permanently laid off because some work just never came back after COVID.

Just goes to show that even the best economy can be scuttled if you put enough of the wrong people in the right places - go figure...
 
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It's very hard to get construction work done because Americans DO NOT want to do manual labor any more. I bet if you visited a classroom and asked the kids "how many want to grow up and do hard work in the hot sun?" you wouldn't see many hands go up. They all want to do what I'm doing right now, typing on a computer in a comfortable chair in a heated and air conditioned room. Can you blame them?
 
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