Range Day with My Wife & Lessons Learned

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So we had the day off yesterday and decided to bust a .50 cal box of ammo. Went to the first range and Pack-o-la. I mean wall to wall British tourists, local clueless and some young fellows having "interesting" conversations about "wanting to shoot the Glock." Put my name on the list. While standing there I watched the counter guy show a dozen noobs how to load, hold, fire, and reload. "Always point downrange." After sweating a bit I asked to have my name removed from the list. Owners were concerned we were unhappy with the facility but we assured them we very much like the place but a full firing line of folks shooting guns (almost all Glocks) for the first time would pucker me up so bad I would not enjoy. They gave us 50% off passes for next time. Got back in the car and drove to Apopka, a well known (around these parts) range. 20 lanes and nobody home! Yay. So we get out the new-to-me Ruger competition target. In true Ruger form, laser accurate, flawless operation, satisfying targets. OK, on to the reason for being there. My wife got her CWP last summer and I wanted her to shoot more for confidence. Well she absolutely hates the 642-1 that I thought was perfect for her. Even with 158 gr RNL it was barky and jumpy and she was anticipating recoil. She got deadly with the 67 so I asked her to put it in her purse, not happening. What to do? I broke out my 6906 that I been carrying for 20 years. I figure no way she can handle it. Right deadly with it but limp wristed it one time and tied it up with a live round out of battery. Showed her "tap and bang" but she wasn't happy after that. Fiocci "Extrema" is some stout stuff, compared to Fed HST flash and recoil was 50% more. Cartridges were mighty long so they won't go in carry rotation. Looks like I might have to give up my 640 that I love dearly. To finish, I broke out the Springer .45. This gun has never had a malfunction. loaded up 3 quality mags with "commercial gun show reloads" and had a nose down in the mag right off. so I stick my finger in and the slide picks up one of the plated flat nose lead and promptly wedges it in the chamber ,OOB. Extractor is behind the cartridge. Lock the slide open and send wife for a Bic pen to knock it out. Counter guy comes in, drops slide and out offending cartridge comes. I didn't want to do that and now I felt like a doofus. Packed up said .45 unshot because all I brought was the 100 bagged reloads. Got them free and that's what they are worth. Lesson learned, I don't want any reloads free or otherwise. We finished with the Ruger, nice to finish on a positive note. Had a nice meal on the long drive home and a conversation that "although I said I have bought my last gun, I'd need to shop for something she needs." Only had to clean 4 guns, haven't got the wife that far, yet. Joe
 
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I've been to ranges like that in the past. The guy behind the counter gives a five-minute lesson on the fundamentals of a pistol to someone who has never held one and then turns the shooter loose. I'm surprised we don't have more accidents than we do. That's one reason why we built a small range on our property.
 
I wish I could get my wife to go shot with me. She does not like shooting. She knows how to shoot, and while we were both in the Air Force she was a better them average shot with the issue S&W Combat Master Peace and the Beretta 9mm. Your a lucky man
 
Lesson Learned: NEVER ASSUME anything about your wife's likes in firearms! I sent my wife to a CCW class that was geared to women. Her Dad is a fine instructor, but would expect his experience to influence her. The class provided 40 +/- different handguns so she could make up her mind of what she wanted. She wanted a Glock, I hate Glocks, but it is for her so she has a Glock (19 I think) 9mm (I hate 9mm, but again it is for her). I have around a hundred handguns, none are 9mm or Glocks, so she wouldn't be satisfied with anything I would provide for her. The good news is she's not interested in my horde. Until our last range session in the fall, I was plinking with my 6" S&W Model 17 (mid-60's) and she tried a couple of cylinders and really liked it. :( Oh No! Then the other day she was literally playing with a different 22 of mine and liked it too. I Think this spring my 22's are in danger of the dreaded, "Wife Appropriation", I had assumed she wouldn't care for revolvers, based on shooting sessions while camping 30 years ago. She's a shooter now (not just the daughter and wife of shooters) and is developing a taste for finer guns! Again, OH NO! (It could be worse, I sold my Smith 41 years ago, or she might take that too.) Ivan
 
My wife got her CWP last summer and I wanted her to shoot more for confidence. Well she absolutely hates the 642-1 that I thought was perfect for her. Even with 158 gr RNL it was barky and jumpy and she was anticipating recoil. She got deadly with the 67 so I asked her to put it in her purse, not happening.

Out of all of this post that should be the lesson learned, your wife picks her own guns not you.

When my wife decided to get her CHP she picked out her guns and when it was time to go to the range I let someone else (a female Sherriff's Deputy) teach her how to shoot and I stayed the hell out of it. I think my wife is a much better shooter because of it.

Just because I'm good at something doesn't mean I can teach it and especially it doesn't mean I can teach it to my spouse.
 
Re: Ranges. It is far more likely that one will be involved in an accident driving down any major highway than that one will be shot/injured at a range, even when others present are not trained to the level that some think necessary. Always remember that the supposed lack of understanding and the supposed necessity that firearms users must be trained to some vague level of proficiency is one of the common routine demands made by those who would use such "reasonable" requirements to restrict and even eliminate our 2nd Amendment rights.
 
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OP, I would have left the first range too. It is nice that they understood your trepidation & gave you the discount passes. Sounds like you ended up at the right place!
 
Whoa! Paragraphs, man, please!
What were the lessons learned then?

Sorry about the writing style, I just started and went to the end. Like others noted: My wife will pick out her own gun. She has shot at least 15 of mine and she LOVES .22's or large revolvers and autos. She's not going to "on body" carry (much to my consternation) so the hunt will continue.
Leaving a range when overcrowded with noobs should have been a no brainer but I really didn't want to drive the 30 more miles each way. Next time I won't invest the 15 mins "thinking".
I have maybe 3K .45acp Fed sitting around. Not bringing any but only "100 rds free gun show reloads" instead was silly. I could have spent the $40/box but we burned 400 rds .22, 150 rds 9mm and 150 38spl as it was. Linda was ready for lunch half an hour before we/ I wanted to quit. Joe
 
I worked today at my p/t job at a LGS/Range. I don't usually work Saturdays, but was asked to fill in for someone who was out.
Saturdays are VERY, make that VERY busy on the range. And, we were busy at the gun counters also.
Was getting sorta late in the day, I was tired, my feet hurt and the only lunch had was crammed down in order to wait on customers and check people in and out of the range.

A rather large lady is at one of the pistol counters, and I asked if I could help her. Related that she was a bit new to the firearms scene and was considering the purchase of a handgun for self defense and perhaps later, concealed carry.
Here's how it went:

ME: "So, ma'am. for a handgun you may be interested in for self defense, have you decided on a revolver or a semi auto?"

CUSTOMER: "Well, I drive a Honda Civic, so I suppose a semi auto."

Me: "..........Huh?"

Went on to help the lady, and was very glad to go home.
 
My 642 is too snappy for my wife too. I picked up a little 10-5 snubby a while back, and that buttered her bread just right. The steel K frame takes just enough of the snap out of those 135+P Gold Dots we keep for pest removal to make her happy.

And when Momma's happy..................
 
+1, Rugskipper. My wife discovered the Glock 19 & will shoot others at my request, but she always comes back to her G19. She does tolerate a FS M&P, though.
 
A woman is most deadly with the gun she chooses. You chose your gun based off your experience, so a woman should try a variety and move in her own direction until she finds the one. Just my opinion, anyway.

My dad attempted to get a small revolver for my sister. Revolvers are simple, powerful, good steel, more reliable compared to autos... Dad's a revolver guy. My sister chose a compact glock 9mm.

You just can't choose a woman's gun. You can choose a man's gun until he learns about more guns. When the army handed me an m9 Beretta 9mm I learned the gun and was all fine and good until I stumbled upon a Sig 1911.

the original point and click interface, by Smith and Wesson
 
- Avoid ranges full with Glocks

- Do judge stuff you'll get for free

- Always have your wife's back and try to make her happy

But I'm with you on the paragraphs.

DISCLAIMER:
nothing against Brits, just their tyrannical, gun-controlling government

Avoid ranges with British tourists. Handguns are illegal in their country, so everyone and their mother would want to shoot one. I would guess that 98% of them would not be familiar with how striker-fired pistols work, and therefore unfamiliar with the Glock's lack of manual safety. This is just asking for an AD. I wouldn't feel comfortable there either.

+1 for paragraphs
 
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CUSTOMER: "Well, I drive a Honda Civic, so I suppose a semi auto."

Bahahahaha!

Clearly she'd want a semi-auto. An assault pistol would totally be for someone who drove a ford f150.

The best part, is that I'm a travel agent, and I think I've helped her plan her cruise to Las Vegas. Hahaha
 
>. Extractor is behind the cartridge. Lock the slide open and send wife for a Bic pen to knock it out. Counter guy comes in, drops slide and out offending cartridge comes. I didn't want to do that and now I felt like a doofus. <

Y'know, the lesson I woulda learned, from that first post, was "don't let that moronic counter guy touch my 1911".

Got a round in the chamber so he drops the slide making the extractor snap over the rim? Hell with that. Break your own dang gun. Don't mess mine up.
 
Choosing a gun for anyone seems like a strange concept to me at least. Male/female, big/little, experienced/novice any and every one of them may prefer something different.

Picking a lightweight alloy J frame for anyone, most especially for a novice, seems even more strange. There are plenty of very experienced pistoleros who don't like even standard weight J frames. Even more who don't like alloy frames.

A lightweight J wouldn't be my first choice for anybody.


Sgt Lumpy
 
I've been to ranges like that in the past. The guy behind the counter gives a five-minute lesson on the fundamentals of a pistol to someone who has never held one and then turns the shooter loose. I'm surprised we don't have more accidents than we do. That's one reason why we built a small range on our property.

You probably NEVER want to visit a range in Vegas during tourist season.

Choosing a gun for somebody else is always a tricky prospect. My late wife picked out her first gun, a Steyr M9, because of the big, easy to see sights. Then we went to the range and she tried to shoot it. After about a magazine she decides she does not like semi-autos because of the slide thrashing around and the empties coming out.

She tried my Model 63 but it became clear that she was just not a gun person. She flinched even with a .22. I tried to get her to shoot my 686 loaded with .38s but I got the "That gun's too big" response. Trying to explain the physics of recoil got me nowhere.
 
Every response has valid points. Carry guns are "compromise" choices. I carry a 6906, works every time, carries 12, and relative light. Is it the gun I shoot best? no. Is it the latest technology, no. Do I have "better" guns, yes. But the 6906 is almost always with me, I have grown into it's feel and trust the juju. The 642 ain't optimum, but at 1 pound she might have it in her purse when needed. I have a 2" DAO 64-4 that would be perfect but it weighs in at "not going in the purse. This is a complex issue. Joe
 
GOOD ADVICE

Just because I'm good at something doesn't mean I can teach it and especially it doesn't mean I can teach it to my spouse.[/QUOTE]

Truer words were never spoken! ESPECIALLY THE LAST PART!!
 
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It's 7 years old!!:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
 
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