I wish I could help, but I am too far away. The first high powered rifle I ever fired was an M1 while I was in college ROTC in the early 1960's. At ROTC summer camp, we fired the M1 a lot and qualified with them. I was very impressed with the accuracy and reliability. Later, on active duty, I fired and qualified with the M14 and M16, but was not impressed by either. After I retired, I had a chance to trade for an M1, and did so. It is a refurbished rifle that came out of the DCM, and shoots just as well as I remembered. The recoil is a lot more bearable than any of the .30-06 hunting rifles I have owned.