Usmc5811
US Veteran
I've seen one resembling AndyD's revolver for sell for around $900. It's advertised as a 3" 13 but has the colored insert on the front sight. Could you get the 13's with the sight insert?
Rare but there; Model 19 fixed sights
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A model 13 with a 3" barrel is a standard production gun that is just not all too common and highly sought after. I guess that a RR, a red ramp insert, could be ordered with the M13 at the time of production.
fishcreekrim
Member
The pertinent question would be, shroud or no shroud?
From the factory the M13 did not come with an ejector housing shroud and the M19 came standard with adjustable sights, correct?
Absalom
SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
Yes. Basically, the Model 13 was a Model 10 Heavy Barrel up-calibered to .357 Magnum, while the Model 19 was (at least that's the popular story) Bill Jordan's idea of down-sizing the adjustable-sight N-frame Magnum to a K-frame. Really different genesis.
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Texas Star
US Veteran
The story about Jordan is correct. And he told me in person that he never envisioned that people would use it as a full-time Magnum. He felt that most .357 owners shot maybe 10-15% of their rounds as .357 ammo, the rest .38's. At that rate, the Combat Magnum endures pretty well.
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BTW, Bill also told me that he felt that stainless steel was the greatest advance in handguns in the past hundred years. So, a M-66 was the perfection of his idea of a more compact .357.
dbracin
Member
Just thought this thread needed more visual reference. lol
Here's a couple of 3" k frame fixed sighted beauties.
M13 & M65
Engine49guy
Member
Very nice fixed site Model 19.
Besides the ejector rod shroud your fixed site Model 19 frame is longer in the yoke area to mate to the shroud (as is the Model 65 Lady Smith).
K frame barrels with an ejector rod shroud will work on Standard Model 13 and Model 65 frames but the shroud overhangs the frame a little .
Besides the ejector rod shroud your fixed site Model 19 frame is longer in the yoke area to mate to the shroud (as is the Model 65 Lady Smith).
K frame barrels with an ejector rod shroud will work on Standard Model 13 and Model 65 frames but the shroud overhangs the frame a little .
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The ones made for the French in 1973 didn't have the slot for the trigger stop but the order for West Germany in 1972 did.
They also don't have the serrated front and back straps of KT's, they're smooth like M&Ps.
French . . . . . . West German
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The serial number of D63xxxx puts it as fixed sights manufactured in 1968. This gun has been very well cared for but the timing was a tad late and I changed the hand to one from my parts box that improved the timing. A polished rebound slide and lower power spring have been also installed from the same box, keeping the stock parts and the double action pull is now very nice!
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I think they called it the Model 13, 65 and 65LS in 3".....I advocated for years for a 65NL ( non-Lady smith) without luck.......
Since I love longer barreled revolvers and also like fixed sighted revolvers, I hunted down a S&W M19-P. The condition isn't exactly what I had expected but the gun has been shot very little and has good timing. I love FGC and changed the grips out for my shooting pleasure.
It is a S&W M19-P, made for Peru in 1987 in the AWF range and is part of the delivery to Wischo, Germany. It has Belgian proof marks but I somehow suspect that the revolvers went through Luxembourg, which isn't a member of CIP and were therefore proofed at CIP headquarters for European sales.
It is a S&W M19-P, made for Peru in 1987 in the AWF range and is part of the delivery to Wischo, Germany. It has Belgian proof marks but I somehow suspect that the revolvers went through Luxembourg, which isn't a member of CIP and were therefore proofed at CIP headquarters for European sales.
Best of both worlds in my opinion. I have always liked fixed sights better and I just cannot stop wanting more model 19s. I would love to have a gun that was both (I do own a model 65 but it just isn't the same).
bananaman
Member
Great one to have!!! I really like the stocks that are on it. Are they marked as to maker? Bob
bananaman
Member
I have 5 sets of Herretts myself. Just right for my hands. Bob
