arch stanton
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If it were I, Id up the wifes insurance and send her to the compost bin from now on!
Rattlesnake photo ID
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ol' geeser
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I do not believe they are the same snake...note the white "brow" markings from the rear of the eye toward the front on #2 that are not present on #1...also the scales on the bridge of the "nose" appear to be set at a different angle and have a different texture....the white cheek stripe is different as well...
Bearing local laws into consideration either or both would be residing with cornmeal and onions at my earliest opportunity.....
Bearing local laws into consideration either or both would be residing with cornmeal and onions at my earliest opportunity.....
jag312
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I'm going out shopping tomorrow morning for a new Stetson. A snake skin hat band would sure look good on my new hat.
Texas Star
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I want to see the tail stripes. That will sometimes distinguish a Mojave rattler from a WD. On the first, the stripes are more widely spaced.
This snake(s) is/are VERY dangerous, esp. if a Mojave, which has usually got a high neurotoxic element in the venom. It may shut down your respiratory system or heart before you get treatment, and the doctor needs to know that this species was involved. It will possibly affect the antivenin given and his general treatment of the bite.
A solid bite from either species is a GRAVE medical emergency, and you need treatment ASAP. If you are allergc to horse serum, they may not be able to inject antivenin, which leaves you all the more in serious danger of dying or being permanantly impaired. You will SUFFER!!! Even a human breath on your injured leg wil feel very painful, via testimony from bite victims.
Rattlers don't alway rattle. Their strike is extremely fast, too. If you get a full "feeding response" bite, you are in BAD trouble! Stay away from these snakes. Use a long telephoto lens, and be CAREFUL about approaching too closely while looking through the lens. The Dallas zoo herp people told me that they stopped letting people photograph snakes in their work area because so many lost track of how close they were getting to snakes.
You definitely need to be wary of these reptiles and wear no sandals or flip-flops outdoors. And call now and see if local hospitals keep suitable anti-venin on hand. Be aware that many docs are untrained in specialzed trearment of snakebites. Theyre best avoided! (Snakebites)
This snake(s) is/are VERY dangerous, esp. if a Mojave, which has usually got a high neurotoxic element in the venom. It may shut down your respiratory system or heart before you get treatment, and the doctor needs to know that this species was involved. It will possibly affect the antivenin given and his general treatment of the bite.
A solid bite from either species is a GRAVE medical emergency, and you need treatment ASAP. If you are allergc to horse serum, they may not be able to inject antivenin, which leaves you all the more in serious danger of dying or being permanantly impaired. You will SUFFER!!! Even a human breath on your injured leg wil feel very painful, via testimony from bite victims.
Rattlers don't alway rattle. Their strike is extremely fast, too. If you get a full "feeding response" bite, you are in BAD trouble! Stay away from these snakes. Use a long telephoto lens, and be CAREFUL about approaching too closely while looking through the lens. The Dallas zoo herp people told me that they stopped letting people photograph snakes in their work area because so many lost track of how close they were getting to snakes.
You definitely need to be wary of these reptiles and wear no sandals or flip-flops outdoors. And call now and see if local hospitals keep suitable anti-venin on hand. Be aware that many docs are untrained in specialzed trearment of snakebites. Theyre best avoided! (Snakebites)
Hmmm, so in Arizona, Diamondbacks are protected, eh. Here in Texas, we think that's a rather amusing point of view. Out in the sticks, is one thing, around my abode is a whole 'nother ball of wax. I probably would make a couple of calls to see if someone wanted it, and would come get it NOW, or it would surely be decapitated.
captorquewrench
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....whereas males tend to wander around in search of cloaca.
some things do not change from species to species
I think you have a different snake this year. Different brow markings.
captorquewrench
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Get Sip to come stomp on it and say a prayer like he did to that roach
You're gonna need a bigger boat.
I mean, boot.
Lee in Quartzsite
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Western Diamondbacks are not........
Plus, right now the Diamondbacks are playing lousy baseball.......
fiasconva
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Kill?...maybe not, but it would certainly be relocated if possible.
Texas Star
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Unless one is a professional snake handler, see my comments on not getting close to one.
Being safe beats being PC.
My guess on the protected species is that they are ridge-nosed rattlers or rock rattlers. ?? Avoid them, too.
The Last Standing Knight
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Awwww. it's cute!
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I hear they taste like chicken.
Straightshooter2
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You said it disappeared into a hole in the ground? Hmmm wonder what you might get if you took an old garden hose and poured a few drops of gasoline in that hole.
CW
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Duke426
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Personally, I think you're playin' with fire there, Lenny. Keep it up and eventually you're gonna get burned. JMHO and good luck.
fat tom
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The herp dude is prolly lyin.Doubt western d back is endangered or protected.
And with all due respect to patvin,as much as I love my boas patvin is nuts
,and I mean that in the kindest way.
If noone wants to come capture and relocate for ya, and I mean quick fast and in a hurry.This is a job for a Ruger 10/22 and a 50 round mag. Especially if you put gas down the hole.
And with all due respect to patvin,as much as I love my boas patvin is nuts
,and I mean that in the kindest way.If noone wants to come capture and relocate for ya, and I mean quick fast and in a hurry.This is a job for a Ruger 10/22 and a 50 round mag. Especially if you put gas down the hole.
I counted the scales on both pictures and the first pictured snake
has 21,090 and the second snake had 21,055 so it's a different
snake.
They are alot easier to identify dead in my experience.
Also Western Diamonbacks are neither threatened or endangered. Google it.
Chuck
has 21,090 and the second snake had 21,055 so it's a different
snake.
They are alot easier to identify dead in my experience.
Also Western Diamonbacks are neither threatened or endangered. Google it.
Chuck
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Protected or not, any snake like that I run across is going to
become belt material.
Or at least on my property anyway... I don't want to see them
a second time. I'm paranoid about those things.. I usually wear
snake protectors if I'm tromping where snakes could hide.
I always wear em when I'm mowing tall grass, etc..
I've been using the cheap plastic ones for the last few years.
They seem to work pretty well, and don't bother me to wear them
as they are so light, and fit fairly tight..
Bob R
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Just tell those wet siders to be careful in the woods because there is a boa out there and they become even more paranoid. First looking at the gound for biters and then up in the trees for squeezers.
Here on the east side the snakes are starting to come out, now I have to be a little more careful when hunting coyotes.
Having grown up in Oklahoma, and with more than a couple of rattlesnake roundups under my belt, I don't dislike the snakes, but I don't go out of my way to be especially nice to them either.
bob
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Has anyone here actually tried pouring gasoline down a snake hole? I've read that they are incredibly resistant to gas fumes.
I wouldn't suggest lighting any gas that you've poured down a hole. That could be dangerous, I bet. To you, as well as to the snake.
One poster said that the right solution is a Ruger 10-22 and a fifty round drum, or some such. I understand that the Ruger isn't too accurate right out of the box, but if you need 50 shots to kill a rattler with one, better buy a Marlin M-795SS instead. Mine is certainly accurate enough not to need more than 2-3 shots to kill most snakes. One will surely do it, if a good brain hit. Actually, the most accurate .22 auto rifle I've shot was a Weatherby Mark XXII. Wish that I still had it. With that, you could probably pick the heat sensory pit that you wanted to put a bullet into, if the snake held still a few seconds.
Have any of you shot a coiled snake with a powerful handgun, like a .357 or .44 Magnum? I once shot a lizard with a Hi-Standard .22, and the impact of that little .22 bullet blew the lizard several feet away. Maybe he made a final convlusive leap as the bullet struck? Anyway, what was the effect of the bullet on the snake? Did it actually move it away from where it was?
And there's this bit of trivia. Mexicans sometimes call rattlers snakes "con cuatro narices". (With four nostrils.) They don't grasp that two of those "nostrils" are heat-sensng pits. Further south, people think the Tropical Rattler (Crotalus durissus) can break a man's neck with a strike. It's really because the highly neurotoxic venom affects the neck muscles, causing the victim's head to roll and droop. Bushmaster (Lachesis muta) bites sometimes do that too, with the same rumor associated with them.
Oh: I took a good look at the head markings of the snakes in the photos. They are different snakes.
I wouldn't suggest lighting any gas that you've poured down a hole. That could be dangerous, I bet. To you, as well as to the snake.
One poster said that the right solution is a Ruger 10-22 and a fifty round drum, or some such. I understand that the Ruger isn't too accurate right out of the box, but if you need 50 shots to kill a rattler with one, better buy a Marlin M-795SS instead. Mine is certainly accurate enough not to need more than 2-3 shots to kill most snakes. One will surely do it, if a good brain hit.
Actually, the most accurate .22 auto rifle I've shot was a Weatherby Mark XXII. Wish that I still had it. With that, you could probably pick the heat sensory pit that you wanted to put a bullet into, if the snake held still a few seconds.Have any of you shot a coiled snake with a powerful handgun, like a .357 or .44 Magnum? I once shot a lizard with a Hi-Standard .22, and the impact of that little .22 bullet blew the lizard several feet away. Maybe he made a final convlusive leap as the bullet struck? Anyway, what was the effect of the bullet on the snake? Did it actually move it away from where it was?
And there's this bit of trivia. Mexicans sometimes call rattlers snakes "con cuatro narices". (With four nostrils.) They don't grasp that two of those "nostrils" are heat-sensng pits. Further south, people think the Tropical Rattler (Crotalus durissus) can break a man's neck with a strike. It's really because the highly neurotoxic venom affects the neck muscles, causing the victim's head to roll and droop. Bushmaster (Lachesis muta) bites sometimes do that too, with the same rumor associated with them.
Oh: I took a good look at the head markings of the snakes in the photos. They are different snakes.
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