400short
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Check out UDAP Bear Deterrent Pepper Spray They produce bear spray and pepper spray, Theres a video of a pit bull being hit with their spary. good stuff
Recommendation for a Non-Lethal Dog Repellent
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Packard
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Bear deterrent sprayers can shoot out to 25 feet. A real advantage. But they contain the same ingredients as human pepper spray. And they are generally too large to carry. A good human sprayer will go out to 12 feet. The keychain ones only to 4 to 6 feet and I consider them inadequte for dogs or bad guys.
Packard
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Upon further reflection I don't this this would work for me. The cattle prods I've seen are too large to carry on my person. The stun batons pretty much mean that the dog has already launched and is about to nail you as you apply the zapper.
A full size man in good shape can defeat a dog upto about 75 pounds. But the dog usually wins because of our primal fear of an attacking dog. Dog trainers get over that fear and can frequently protect themselves from an attacking dog. I think that same primal fear would come into play with the very close battle stun batons.
Desert Dog
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Buy a Kimber...
PepperBlaster II
Or just buy a smaller spray bottle, fill it with ammonia and some Tabasco sauce and call it a day. Though undiluted household ammonia alone will work fine. Don't bother with a squirt gun as most will leak. Any decent common household spray bottle can shoot a fair ways. Find a setting somewhere between mist and stream. If you want to step it up, you can buy a pressure sprayer bottle that will increase the distance and volume of spray.
Large Animal Pressure Sprayer | U.S. Plastic Corp.
Or use what mail carriers have used for thirty years...
Halt II is 1% capsaicin. Clip a can to your belt and go.
http://www.rainbowtech.net/products/docs/a87ff679345c7c6ad26/Literature.pdf.pdf
PepperBlaster II
Or just buy a smaller spray bottle, fill it with ammonia and some Tabasco sauce and call it a day. Though undiluted household ammonia alone will work fine. Don't bother with a squirt gun as most will leak. Any decent common household spray bottle can shoot a fair ways. Find a setting somewhere between mist and stream. If you want to step it up, you can buy a pressure sprayer bottle that will increase the distance and volume of spray.
Large Animal Pressure Sprayer | U.S. Plastic Corp.
Or use what mail carriers have used for thirty years...
Halt II is 1% capsaicin. Clip a can to your belt and go.
http://www.rainbowtech.net/products/docs/a87ff679345c7c6ad26/Literature.pdf.pdf
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+1 on the ammonia and water. When I was in unversity there were a lot of mean stray dogs between my place and campus and I carried a squeeze bottle with ammonia. Had to use it several times and it worked well. How about wasp spray?
Packard
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Buy a Kimber...
Or use what mail carriers have used for thirty years...
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Halt II is 1% capsaicin. Clip a can to your belt and go.
http://www.rainbowtech.net/products/docs/a87ff679345c7c6ad26/Literature.pdf.pdf
I tried the Kimber. It shoots pretty far. But your aim has to be on-target and you only have two shots. I felt I would need more practice to assure my accuracy. I felt a lot safer with a sprayer where I could re-aim on the fly.
The Halt II is half the potency of the human variety--with good reason--it is legal (as far as I know) in all states because of the lower potency, and dogs have more sensitive membranes than humans and it works fine.
But if I am going to carry only one sprayer, then it's going to be the human variety with the extra potency. Attacking dogs be forewarned.
I think it is unreasonable to expect anyone to carry a bottle sprayer on a regular basis.
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DreamerzCC
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Buy a Kimber...
PepperBlaster II
Or just buy a smaller spray bottle, fill it with ammonia and some Tabasco sauce and call it a day. Though undiluted household ammonia alone will work fine. Don't bother with a squirt gun as most will leak. Any decent common household spray bottle can shoot a fair ways. Find a setting somewhere between mist and stream. If you want to step it up, you can buy a pressure sprayer bottle that will increase the distance and volume of spray.
Large Animal Pressure Sprayer | U.S. Plastic Corp.
Or use what mail carriers have used for thirty years...
Halt II is 1% capsaicin. Clip a can to your belt and go.
http://www.rainbowtech.net/products/docs/a87ff679345c7c6ad26/Literature.pdf.pdf
When I worked for the power company we used Halt II. It is red so watch out for you clothes but it never failed me. You would only need to hit the dog once in the eye area, after that just a glimpse of the bottle on that dog will do the trick. I used it on German Shepards, Pit Bulls, Rottie's and mutts. Used it more than I wish I had too.
Desert Dog
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Probably is easier for the paperboy with racks, or bicyclist with a place to mount a spray bottle. But people carry water bottles on their belts often enough that it shouldn't present much of a challenge to find a smaller spray bottle to fit a water bottle carrier.
As with humans, some dogs are immune to the effects of pepper spray. Ammonia is often recommended over pepper spray for this application because it is an asphyxiant that cause a more pronounced reaction with dogs than does pepper spray. I've heard it explained that a more aggressive breed may be able to ignore the pain of pepper spray, whereas the effects of a breathing problem coupled with being blinded is not be so easily ignored.
Household ammonia is commonly an 8% solution. Stronger stuff (straight ammonium hydroxide) is available and can be diluted to half strength, but it is far less safe in such concetrations.
Read this in another forum from someone that used it in a LE setting:
"you have to hit a dog square in the mug with pepper spray or mace or it doesn't work. When I was on the Tactical Entry Team (years ago) and were going into a yard with an aggressive dog we carried a spray bottle of ammonia. It never failed to chase them off, even if it didn't "hit the mark". The remained wary of us the entire time we were at the location, barking, but at a distance."
FWIW, the Kimber Pepperblaster II was mentioned half in jest.
Packard
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I had a purebred Doberman Pincher who apparently did not know how big the breed was supposed to get. He grew to 29" at the shoulder (2" taller than your desk) and 135 pounds. He jumped a 10 foot tall fence once with about 1 foot of air under his belly.
He had a unique approach to other dogs.
If a dog came over and wanted to sniff he was, "Hey, I like to sniff."
If a dog came over and wanted to play he was, "Hey, I like to play."
And if a dog came over to fight, he was, "Cool, I love to fight."
Whatever the dog wanted to do, he was happy to accommodate him. And he always, always won the fights. A local motorcycle dealer had a Doberman that he allowed to roam the streets. My dog beat that dog in a fight so fast that it was over before I knew it was starting, the the dealer's dog on the ground and my dog holding him by the throat. My dog then let him go and turned his back on the dealer's dog and strutted away with an attitude that said, "Go ahead and try it."
On another occasion a woman was walking home from the train station and the dealer's dog was stalking her. I joined her with my dog and escorted her home. The dealer's dog ran off.
Apparently it was strength by association. After that the woman said all she had to do when the dealer's dog was around was to spin around and say, "Go!" and the dog would run off.
But in general I don't think carrying a dog with you is the answer. I carry pepper spray and a gun (or two). Not every situation where you could legally use a gun is it sensible to do so. At the very least the paperwork involved in a shooting would recommend pepper spray over a 9mm.
He had a unique approach to other dogs.
If a dog came over and wanted to sniff he was, "Hey, I like to sniff."
If a dog came over and wanted to play he was, "Hey, I like to play."
And if a dog came over to fight, he was, "Cool, I love to fight."
Whatever the dog wanted to do, he was happy to accommodate him. And he always, always won the fights. A local motorcycle dealer had a Doberman that he allowed to roam the streets. My dog beat that dog in a fight so fast that it was over before I knew it was starting, the the dealer's dog on the ground and my dog holding him by the throat. My dog then let him go and turned his back on the dealer's dog and strutted away with an attitude that said, "Go ahead and try it."
On another occasion a woman was walking home from the train station and the dealer's dog was stalking her. I joined her with my dog and escorted her home. The dealer's dog ran off.
Apparently it was strength by association. After that the woman said all she had to do when the dealer's dog was around was to spin around and say, "Go!" and the dog would run off.
But in general I don't think carrying a dog with you is the answer. I carry pepper spray and a gun (or two). Not every situation where you could legally use a gun is it sensible to do so. At the very least the paperwork involved in a shooting would recommend pepper spray over a 9mm.
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