I currently use Promo in my 38's at the same weight as Red Dot. I'm loading 148 gr wadcutters and, so far, good results and I've fired quite a few rounds. My question is, does anybody have a Red Dot load that can be used for a 125gr JHP? I'd like to load a few but unsure of using Red Dot. Also, my gun can handle +P loads if that makes a difference.
Red Dot for 38 Special
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Certainly....
Certainly, except that I have to find the right book.
Certainly, except that I have to find the right book.
In my J frame snub nose with a win. or Rem. Jhp bullet with a oal of around 1.43 +/- per brass and bullet with Red Dot I can get from 777 to 903 fps.
In a 6" K frame with a 125 XTP at 1.44 OAL Red Dot will come in at around 685 to 996 fps.
Type of primers, crimp pressure and OAL of your brass will all play a part on your pressures and velocity.
Hopefully you have a manual with Red Dot data...........it is being left out of a lot of the newer manuals.
As a note:
the powder amount in post #3 in my 6" comes out at a factory 945 fps.
Safe loading.
In a 6" K frame with a 125 XTP at 1.44 OAL Red Dot will come in at around 685 to 996 fps.
Type of primers, crimp pressure and OAL of your brass will all play a part on your pressures and velocity.
Hopefully you have a manual with Red Dot data...........it is being left out of a lot of the newer manuals.
As a note:
the powder amount in post #3 in my 6" comes out at a factory 945 fps.
Safe loading.
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David R
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Richard Lee says 3.9 red dot for 950 fps 125 grain Jacketed.
This is the same as in the Hercules Reloaders Guide.
4.1 red dot for +p at 965 fps 17,000 psi. From the Hercules reloaders guide.
Have fun
This is the same as in the Hercules Reloaders Guide.
4.1 red dot for +p at 965 fps 17,000 psi. From the Hercules reloaders guide.
Have fun
Not disputing David R's post-but an advisement-Lee's book compiles manufacturer data (as David's post implies)....and he got his Alliant data at the time when Alliant had the most ridiculously pathetic .38 special loads in history. -For a while it had me confused because max loads were suddenly 15-25% lower than what I'd been using. . Note the difference between the Hodgdon data and Lee's in this thread.
Steve C
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The data below is from Alliant around 2005. The loads listed are maximum and you are expected to calculate start load by reducing the load by 10%.
Yes...............
Red , Green & Blue are fading in the distance................
Making room for the newer Power Pistol and the new kid on the block that will be out soon ?? (86 ) If it works out, maybe Herco is next ?
Red , Green & Blue are fading in the distance................
Making room for the newer Power Pistol and the new kid on the block that will be out soon ?? (86 ) If it works out, maybe Herco is next ?
warf73
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I think Promo will replace Red Dot as they are one in the same from what I've read.
Please not Herco...... a normal year I go threw 2 8lbs kegs of Herco. I use it in 12ga, 20ga, 28ga, 44mag, 357mag and 45lc.
Love that powder
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