Remington. 38 Special +P issue

[LKGMADMAX]

All:

Took my new model 60 pro out this weekend and shot some Remington 38 +P's. I had the gun seized up on me, cylinder appeared jammed. This is what I found when I swung the cylinder out and inspected it. Ever see this before?

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[CCV]

Never saw that before. Please provide details on the ammo.

 

[bmcgilvray]

Thanks for posting the photos! Very interesting. I've never encountered anything like that.

That is a curious complaint you have there. It appears to be some sort of cartridge case manufacturing defect. At first I was thinking a soft case head due to improperly hardened brass but it almost looks like an excess of brass material around the case head, perhaps due to a malformation.

Does the case indicate that it is ruptured? The primers look normal.

Could you post additional photos? Especially of the offending cartridge case after it had been extracted?

 

[LKGMADMAX]

Thanks for posting the photos! Very interesting. I've never encountered anything like that.

That is a curious complaint you have there. It appears to be some sort of cartridge case manufacturing defect. At first I was thinking a soft case head due to improperly hardened brass but it almost looks like an excess of brass material around the case head, perhaps due to a malformation.

Does the case indicate that it is ruptured? The primers look normal.

Could you post additional photos? Especially of the offending cartridge case after it had been extracted?

Thanks for the responses, unfortunately I didn't keep the cartridge, the brass trimming fell off when I removed the cartridge from the gun. Wal-mart 100 rounds of Remington UMC 125 grain Semi- JKTD Hollow Point.

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[one eye joe]

Am I assuming correctly that the cartridge was unremarkable in appearance when you loaded it ? ?

 

[mesinge2]

I had a box of Remington standard pressure loads that had case failures like that, about 10 cases out of the box failed.
The cases split and tore at the rim. This is one of the cases with a bore light in it:

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[scooter123]

I don't know if it's real, but it looks like there is either a scratch or crack in the cylinder chamber where that casing was. I would suggest that you examine your cylinder under magnification and if you even suspect that it's cracked you'll want to send the gun to S&W and contact Remington about this problem.

 

[one eye joe]

I don't know if it's real, but it looks like there is either a scratch or crack in the cylinder chamber where that casing was. I would suggest that you examine your cylinder under magnification and if you even suspect that it's cracked you'll want to send the gun to S&W and contact Remington about this problem.

GOOD ADVICE. SADLY, YOU DISCARDED THE CASE. TACTICAL ERROR ON YOUR PART............

 

[thndrchiken]

I don't know if it's real, but it looks like there is either a scratch or crack in the cylinder chamber where that casing was. I would suggest that you examine your cylinder under magnification and if you even suspect that it's cracked you'll want to send the gun to S&W and contact Remington about this problem.

Good catch I didn't notice it the first time I looked at the pictures. That may be your problem. I would definitely have that gun checked.

 

[eric1959]

I recently purchased the same ammo, also at Walmart. I could not get the cylinder to close when I loaded into a Mod 36. Brass looks okay but ?. Same revolver worked fine with 3 other types of .38 ammo I had with me. I haven't tried in any other revolvers yet.
Eric

 

[stiab]

I haven't had that problem, but I participated in a discussion on this forum a couple years ago concerning the newer Remington .38 Special +P 158 grain overall length being too long to chamber in some older J frames. If anybody needs those pics, let me know. The length of the rounds in the two boxes I had approached .357 Magnum numbers, and caused the cylinders not to close.

 

[Az Rick]

You need to contact Remington, I think they'd be very interested in your experience with the ammo. They might even want to do a recall. At the very least I would expect you would get some free replacement ammo. I would think they'd like to examine it.

Best, Rick

 

[mesinge2]

You need to contact Remington, I think they'd be very interested in your experience with the ammo. They might even want to do a recall. At the very least I would expect you would get some free replacement ammo. I would think they'd like to examine it.

Best, Rick

+1

They refunded the cost of the box I sent them even though I shot he whole box, failures and all.

 

[Steve C]

Looks like you have some brass shavings that have gotten between the cylinder and the case rim which is why the revolver jammed up. The situation could be that they where shaved off from a previous cartridge as it turned past the recoil shield or it could be a factory brass defect that existed before you loaded the round and just didn't notice it.

 

[LKGMADMAX]

Am I assuming correctly that the cartridge was unremarkable in appearance when you loaded it ? ?

Correct, looked normal.

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[one eye joe]

LKGMADMAX, another poster noticed what may be a hairline crack in your cylinder. What was the result of your investigation into that issue ? I tend to doubt that it's cracked, and/or that's the problem. I know that UNFORTUNATELY you discarded the shell. Hopefully, you still have the box with the lot number and info. If so, I would contact Remington with the info and the pictures and get their take on the problem........

 

[photoman]

I haven't had that problem, but I participated in a discussion on this forum a couple years ago concerning the newer Remington .38 Special +P 158 grain overall length being too long to chamber in some older J frames. If anybody needs those pics, let me know. The length of the rounds in the two boxes I had approached .357 Magnum numbers, and caused the cylinders not to close.

I remember that. Had a box of that 158gr LHP+P Remington that was very loaded very long.