Remington pump rifle rather than an AR or AK

[satx78247]

To ALL,

My MBR is a Danish royal arsenal rebuild from CMP & my adopted family has a "mountain lair" in WV. - I spend my summers there.
(We have about 10K rounds of M2 ammo in our gun-vault & all of our neighbors there "are in bed with" the local SO & there are at least 25 families who have Garands for "local defense".)

Fwiw, "the mountain" is a "really bad place" to "cause trouble", as we are prepared to repel criminals.

After a "bad storm" several years ago, we had some "wannabe looters", who took one look at our "traffic control point" that was set-up "down the hill" & chose (WISELY, imVho) to go elsewhere to seek ill-gotten goods.

yours, satx

 

[satx78247]

To ALL,

Fwiw, I'm looking for another magazine for my 1954-era Model 760 in .300 Savage and additional .300 Savage brass for reloading too.

yours, satx

 

[satx78247]

To ALL,

If you'll accept the advice of a retired LEO, you all should consider your locale, "response time" of local police & other relevant circumstances in preparing to protect "home & hearth" from "untoward circumstances".

For example, I now live in SA 6-7 months a year, where "back-up" from the SAPD & our Constables Office is NEARBY & PROTECTIVE. - My primary task in SA is to dial 911 & then "hole up" for a half-hour or less, if "something untoward" happens, until help arrives.
Otoh, IF it looks like things in SA are going to "get really ugly", I'll load "my lady on wheels" up and go onto Ft Sam Houston, until things "settle down". = Trust me, the MPs & DoD Police won't tell a retired MP & his disabled lady to "get lost".
(My "city guns" are an old 12 gauge 870 pump-gun, loaded with #2 goose shot, and a 9mm Sig-Sauer P6 on my belt.)

Otoh, we spend the other months of each year at our "mountain lair", where LEO may respond in an HOUR, if then. - IF the "long bridge" is "out", we are on our own, possibly for days/weeks.
(My "brothers of the heart" and I always carry concealed "up there" and have Garand rifles, shotguns & other firearms available, as well as "back-up" from our "very well armed" neighbors, until help from the SO arrives. - After our experiences about 5 years ago with prowlers/burglars from "outside", we "folks up on the mountain" are prepared to defend against anything short of a major war.)

yours, satx

 

[bummer]

I don't know if already posted but a M-1 Carbine would fit the bill

 

[BigBill]

For home defence it's the 12ga. Pump with "00" buck for up close and personal work. After that it's the brand new battle field proven flawless design of the Russian Izmash Saiga AK/AKM Semi Auto rifle in 223 or 308win. This rifle is very accurate. And the action spits out the 308 round faster than any other rifle I have shot before. It's dependability and reliability in any conditions and weather exceeds any rifle on the planet.
With its chrome lined bore and chamber it's the Russian quality up front.
This is the rifle you want.

The 12ga 2 3/4" "00" sends out 9 close to 32cal lead rounds while the 3" mag shell sends out 12.

 

[satx78247]

Big Bill, et. al.,

Fyi, we MPs in 1990 extensively tested 000 BUCK, 00 BUCK, 0 BUCK, "1 BUCK, #4 BUCK & #2 shot in "the shooting house" and found that at "home defense ranges" that #4 Buck and #2 goose shot were DEADLY W/O penetrating interior walls with deadly projectiles.
AND
That #7 1/2 shot was generally enough, out to 15M, to "deter determined intruders".

We also found that EXPERT marksmen frequently could NOT consistently hit human-size targets in the darkened house with a handgun, even at THREE METERS, as they couldn't see the sights on their handgun!
(Full Disclosure: I'm a holder of a Firearms Instructor's and Range Officer's certificate "for life" and I completely missed the silhouettes at 3M, 7 of 12 times!)

yours, satx

 

[mkk41]

Just read in the American Rifleman that the 760 in 30-06 and later .308 was issued by the FBI because it was so similar in operation to the 870 shotgun.

The 760 is a highly popular deer rifle here in PA as semi-autos are not allowed. It offers quick follow-up shot (quicker than a bolt?) and it works for southpaws. Plus with that heavy free-floating barrel , most are very accurate.

 

[feralmerril]

There is no doubt its faster than a lever or bolt. I have levers, bolts and a browning BAR also in 30-06. As said, it was my dads, it is more accurate with the peep than I am. Whats not to like? I think I will start packing this on my atv. Its cheaper, lighter, faster, accurate, and cost maybe a fraction of most my other rifles. I may hunt for a extra magazine, maybe a extended one if they are made. I never owned a garand but being the same caliber I wonder what a garand can do what this wont in the real world? Or my BAR for that matter.

 

[satx78247]

feralmerreil,

NUMRICH has 10 round mags for your rifle in stock.
(OR they did on Monday PM, anyway.)

yours, satx

 

[mkk41]

Remington also made a semi-auto sibling , the model 740/7400 that takes the same magazines.

 

[BigBill]

Big Bill, et. al.,

Fyi, we MPs in 1990 extensively tested 000 BUCK, 00 BUCK, 0 BUCK, "1 BUCK, #4 BUCK & #2 shot in "the shooting house" and found that at "home defense ranges" that #4 Buck and #2 goose shot were DEADLY W/O penetrating interior walls with deadly projectiles.
AND
That #7 1/2 shot was generally enough, out to 15M, to "deter determined intruders".

We also found that EXPERT marksmen frequently could NOT consistently hit human-size targets in the darkened house with a handgun, even at THREE METERS, as they couldn't see the sights on their handgun!
(Full Disclosure: I'm a holder of a Firearms Instructor's and Range Officer's certificate "for life" and I completely missed the silhouettes at 3M, 7 of 12 times!)

yours, satx

Thanks I often wondered if the smaller shot was more deadly.

 

[M3Stuart]

I agree with the OP in that I had an AK and am decidedly NOT a fan.

I chose to go with a lever gun in .357. I went with a stainless Rossi M92 in 16.5". It holds 8 in .357 and 9 if you're shooting .38. $500ish. Not a ton of rounds, BUT I can reload for it, it's the same caliber as my handgun and the .357 ballistics are more than sufficient for what I would EVER use it for.

Of course, if you need to reach out more than 100-200 yards, you'll want something else - like the 30-06 mentioned by the OP.

 

[Cyrano]

Remington also made a semi-auto sibling , the model 740/7400 that takes the same magazines.

Don't know just what you mean here. The 760 and 740/7400 do not take the same magazines: the semi auto rifles have a bolt stop in their mchanism, the pump rifle does not.

 

[LaVistaBill]

Just as an interesting FYI, when I joined the U.S. Border Patrol in 1982, the rifle we trained with and was used in the field was a Remington 760 in .308 Win. There was a couple in the gun locker of the small station in New Mexico that I was assigned to; I don't believe anyone ever checked one out for use, but they were there if needed.

 

[mkk41]

Don't know just what you mean here. The 760 and 740/7400 do not take the same magazines: the semi auto rifles have a bolt stop in their mchanism, the pump rifle does not.

Well , you should probably tell the mag manufacturers then.




And IIRC , Rem factory 760 mags will work in a 740 , they just won't hold the bolt open after the last round.

 

[Rick_A]

I've got an AK-47 in 7.62x54R.

30-06 like power in a soft shooting, accurate, semi-automatic.

I was issued M16A2's and they were fine weapons. One was flat wore-out, but that's the USMC for ya. I don't fault the gun...just the guys that were supposed to be fixing 'em. I own a couple AR's in 5.56 as well.

Choose whatever you prefer and use it well.

 

[mkk41]

I've got an AK-47 in 7.62x54R.

Technically speaking , that's not an AK-47 , it's an SVD Dragunov. Basically a strengthened AK derived action.

Dragunov sniper rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia