Rethinking your carry choice in light of the riots.

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Looking at the video and pictures of "protesters" with semi-auto (?) long guns.......... the odds are stacked against anyone armed with only a handgun if the SHTF and moves toward -UBAR

Sitting in the front seat with your 2" model 60..... while taking 5.56 or 7.632x39 rounds through the windshield


Think the final scene from "Bonny and Clide"....... redux


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along with my glock 27 and 22 I keep a ar 15 pistol on my seat with about 8 mags ready to go it wont end well for the virtuous George Floyd types
 
If you watch the video of the Albuquerque shooting you’ll see the shooter went from being the center of attention to all alone in the street once that little gun came out and he stuck a bunch of rounds in the guy who was
hitting him with a skateboard. That guy’s almost last words were “I’m going to ******* kill you!” He lived, and the most serious charges against the shooter have been dropped.

My beloved purple-haired liberal daughter was there that day. She heard the shots but missed the action.

Maybe some of these protesters are made of sterner stuff, but I suspect most will say “feet do your stuff” and call the cops they want to defund once lead starts to fly.
 
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1) if possible, don't be in stupid places where stupid people are doing stupid things


2) you can never have too many backup plans. besides things that go boom, also keep and know how to use sharp things, blunt things, etc.


3) everybody is recording video of everything, but will selectively edit out parts that don't support their narrative. make sure you have the ability to secure your own record of what transpires.


4) vote out politicians and boycott businesses who pander to these mobs!
 
I have been taking a real hard look at my choices as of late. Just in general. My primary reason for currently carrying snubs is really potential contact scenarios. If those situations truly aren’t a priority or unlikely, then they start to not make nearly as much sense to me.
 
There were a few days when my destination for some personal activity skirted an area within a very miles from where a major city was experiencing some protests, some if which involved violence. On those days I made sure my travel routes avoided the troublesome areas, and decided to go with a cover garment and a belt gun instead of a pocket-holstered gun.

Thus, instead of a 6-shot LCP or 5-shot snub, I chose to carry a 9, .40 or .45. That resulted in the magazine capacities ranging from 7-9rds for the 9/.40 guns, and 6rds for the subcompact .45 belt gun. I left the 8-10rd .45's and the 12rd .40 options in the safe.

Bottom line, I'd invested many years and thousands of rounds running those 9, .40 & .45 guns through the range while serving as an instructor, so they were very familiar and well-used options.
 
I have been taking a real hard look at my choices as of late. Just in general. My primary reason for currently carrying snubs is really potential contact scenarios. If those situations truly aren’t a priority or unlikely, then they start to not make nearly as much sense to me.

Sometimes looking at role-specific & situational context in anticipated activities, combined with ongoing risk assessments, may require some prudent flexibility in gear selections.

Having options can be a good thing, as can being able to adjust gear selection to help address and optimize shifting priorities for various situations.

Then again, while I still keep a set of body armor in my trunk, I never go out wearing it anymore. No longer spending my days/nights going out and inserting myself into suspected or known dangerous situations to actively invoke official status. Retirement has its perks. :)

Instead of me going out all the time to try and find where trouble exists (in an official capacity), now trouble has to actively make the effort to come find me. ;)
 
I just added an extra mag in my carry scheme. I just have to hope that 17 plus 17 +1 is sufficient.

Your post reminded me that I didn't address the spare ammunition consideration. ;)

With the exception of one particular day's excursion, I carried a single spare magazine (6-9rds). The exception was a day when I decided to put an additional double mag carrier in my car (7rd mags), giving me a total of 3 spare 7rd mags while in my car.

Kinda reminded me of before my retirement, when I was wearing an issued 4513TSW and wore either 1 or 2 spare 7rd or 8rd (standard for the issued 4566TSW) mags in my plainclothes assignment, but often had another couple of spare mags (and some boxed ammunition) in my unmarked car.
 
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Wrong turns are certainly possible & who knows what nut job group is where at any given time.

That can definitely happen. I still travel a fair amount and google maps has mistakenly directed me to some really bad neighborhoods on a couple of occasions. I had to go to Chicago(northwest suburbs) recently and had planned on not going anywhere near the city, but for whatever reason google took me to the south side in heavy traffic.

A couple of years ago, it had me turn off into a really bad area in Miami. Cities roadways can change a great deal over a few short years, especially the freeways and it can be easy to get turned around even in a city you may have once known fairly well years earlier.
 
Mags

Haven't much rethought my primary carry(G19W/19x back up mag) (5 adtional pistol mags in the truck) so much as I've added an AR pistol to the truck... don't wanna get caught with my pants down 10 "rifle" mags in the kit....

Now your talking...if you want a lot of firepower...carry some extra mags and have them readily accessible. I'm "forced" to carry a glock 9mm on duty but off or plain cloths my choice is a 45 M&P or a 45 1911.
 
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Yes and yes. I live in the burbs north of Minneapolis about 30 mins where the incident happened. Capacity was one of the reasons I got a 9C 3.6”. It was down to the SW or the SA XDM Elite (which I still might get). The looters and riots moved fast. They hit a mall that’s 15 mins away from me. All I had was a .22 rifle used for small game. Figured I needed a little more punch, so I picked up the 9mm. The wife actually encouraged me to get it so why not. BTW, looking for two more mags. What’s a good place to get them from?
 
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Yes and yes. I live in the burbs north of Minneapolis about 30 mins where the incident happened. Capacity was one of the reasons I got a 9C 3.6”. It was down to the SW or the SA XDM Elite (which I still might get). The looters and riots moved fast. They hit a mall that’s 15 mins away from me. All I had was a .22 rifle used for small game. Figured I needed a little more punch, so I picked up the 9mm. The wife actually encouraged me to get it so why not. BTW, looking for two more mags. What’s a good place to get them from?

CDNN usually has very good prices on magazines.
 
I have definitely reshaped my thinking. But I did it over a year ago when I bought a Taurus PT92. I'm close enough to St Louis to be aware of what can happen when mob mentality takes over.
I don't carry the Taurus. Not yet. But I have it incase social unrest comes to my neighborhood.
During the Michael Brown unrest I barely missed getting stranded on Highway 270 when a crowd of protesters/rioters where coming down the embankment, just prior to shutting down the expressway. I could see the crowd coming down the hillside as I drove past. I just made it out of there.

I remember that Brown deal too. I was traveling that summer and my return route to Oklahoma originally took me through STL during the height of the mayhem. I just detoured and avoided it altogether. Had a very nice scenic tour of southern Indiana, SE Missouri. It worked out. Avoidance first.
 
Haven't made any changes. My Shield 9mm with 9 rounds and a spare mag are likely more than sufficient for any situation I might encounter. :cool:
 
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