Revolver rifle

Well, now that Taurus is making the "Revolver Rifle Judge", S&W is Crazy if they do not make a 44 Mag, 460 Mag, and a 500 Mag Revolver Rifle...
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Yes, I think we should all pester them daily until they do!

. Scope mounts that you do not have to remove the rear sight to mount the scope...
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The scope mount should look like their current 460 hunter from the custom shop and be an integral picatiny/weaver mounting out on the front of the frame/rear of the barrel. Personally, I would mount one of those small reflex type red dots.
 
The Taurus 45/410 circuit judge is, from the reviews, a nice gun. However, the Rossi circuit judge in the 22/22mag configuration was an abysmal flop. This is a shame because the idea is a good one, but Taurus/Rossi executed the idea poorly. I would think the S & W could this gun and do it right.

I have a 22/22mag revolver that I like a lot; I can plink and I can hunt with the gun. Unfortunately when I went to get its match in a rifle I ran into a mess.

The reviews for the rifle revolver vary from ok to horrible; most toward the horrible side. The problem is that while Rossi resolved the blow-by, it made a barrel cone big enough to swallow a mag shell, up to 2 1/2 inches deep and so wide that the blast passes the lead and impedes the shot--to the point where the mag shoots at about the power of a regular 22 LR. Not good.

I wanted one of these but I am not willing to spend $600 for a good try. It seems like the idea a good one and that Smith & Wesson could do it right. The demand is certainly there since the internet is replete with reviewers who gave the Rossi a run.

And there is this: I think it's a shame that American gun makers would let other countries beat it to the research and development of fine guns.
 
Make your own. LOL. I did this one from a S&W Brazilian and made a 45LC cylinder that is cut for 45ACP and full moons. No blast shields. I haven't fired it with a bare left arm, but it doesn't bother my arm with a heavy long sleeved shirt. What you do notice is a little bit of peppering to the face as your face is much closer to the cylinder than when normally holding a revolver at arms length. Yes I adjustable sights by milling the slot in the frame.

 
See this months issue of the American Rifleman. New in 2010 is Taurus 45 Colt/410 Bore Circuit Judge Carbine.

I've owned one of those and even with the little deflectors on the sides, it'll still pepper your wrist and arm with hot powder.



Something in a lever action would be safer and ultimately more enjoyable to shoot.
Even a "Mares Leg" would be preferable.

I think I made a grand total of 3 trips to the range with it, before I got tired of burning the **** out of my wrist and just sold the thing.
 
Steelslaver; I like what you've made, in part because I've been thinking of making my own 22/22mag revolver rifle, and in part because you are way ahead of me.

Perhaps you (and others here) can address some of my questions. First, what revolver(s) would be a logical beginning point for a rifle with interchangeable cylinders for both 22 and 22 mag shot? Second, do you know of a revolver made by a company that might make a compatible barrel of 18 inches (or thereabouts)?

Also, have you seen the blast guards on the Rossi rifle revolver? They look a little strange but seem to work and might be added to your project.

Thanks for any help.
 
Smith revolvers in 22 cal are kind of on the spendy side now days for a project like this unless you find one with problems. Just about any 22 revolver can have a piece of 22 barrel threaded and fit to it. I don't know where you would get a made up long barrel. I made mine from a 1.25 od blank and turned and threaded it. The fittings for the forestock and the ejector rod lug are dovetailed into the barrel. If you don't have at lathe (and a mill helps a lot) it would be difficult.
 
Steelslaver;

Thanks for your response. This is probably not a good project for me.

How about this, what if I found a used Rossi, purchased a bolt action barrel and had the cone drilled by a machine shop? The cone seems to be where the problem is.
 
The problem might also be that if the Rossi cone were not so deep and wide that the blow-by would be horrific. One of the reviewers had written Rossi and demanded his money back; the response was that the gun operated according to its design. I may be looking for something that is impossible. Darn.
 
In a 22 the blast from the gap would be small. Besides the forcing cone issue you would need to have the barrel threaded and you would need to install a ejector rod lug. I used a lathe to turn my threads and cleaned them up with a die I made using a tap from Brownels. Just the die is about $80. I had to do a lot of measuring and figuring to dovetail the ejector lug in the correct location. If you don't have machine tools or a buddy who does the cost would be pretty steep.
 
Thank you steelslaver. I'm going to try and put the idea of a rifle/revolver 22/22mag out of my mind for a while. I appreciate your advice on the matter.
 
Easier said than done. I really like the idea of the 22/22mag capability. So I can't help myself. I have more questions than answers, and that's driving me to continue in this search.

The main question is, can this problem be fixed? Could a machinist bore out the cone, insert a plug and re-drill the cone?

And here's another one. Even though the 22 mag might not shoot with any more speed than than a 22 long rifle shell, would it have more impact?

And yet another. Part of my liking for the 22/22mag configuration is that I can sit on my back porch and shoot low powered ammo without having my neighbors calling the police. If the problem of the over-size cone slowed down the magnum, would it also slow down the low-power shot and lead to the possibility of the shot getting stuck in the barrel?

Lots of questions. I selected this forum because it looked to me like the people here knew what they were talking about. I know I've somewhat perverted the focus of this forum, but the subject matter is somewhat generic and does lead to the question of whether S&W could make the gun under discussion.
 
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