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Revolver vs. Semi Auto for CCW
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Doc TH
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But with a revolver, you can choose the level of recoil that is most useful to you: wadcutter, standard, +P, or in some cases .357 mag., generally from 110 grain to 158 grain projectile.
Any of it. Revolver = offense And defense. Auto = defense
And something about getting caught.
Ah, when going on the offence and committing a crime. No shell(s) left at the scene. Hence the LOL....
I find it interesting that anyone actually things a perp is going to put a hand on my loaded gun. Perhaps when it is empty but when a scuffle happens, you have let that one get to close, but a simple squirm and you are free.
You may need to shoot him in the foot or leg the first round of the scuffle, but a bad guy getting hold of the gun is pretty remote for anyone awake.
Lawman, DUH, now it makes sense lol.
I've carried several kinds of guns. I've settled on the Snub Revolver. A J Frame is always in my pocket. Most of the time a second J Frame is in my waist. Lately the 7 shot 817 Taurus has been in my waist. 12 rounds before a reload should do it.
Doc TH
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Do not generally disagree, but using military or LEO as examples for handgun selection is an apples vs. oranges comparison. The "average" citizen is not in military combat against large forces all of whom have only the intention to kill you. Nor does the average citizen have the requirement to confront, capture, and place in custody a criminal; he or she only needs to cause aggression to cease.
Depends on the place, the threat and your ability to move. If 3 guys approach armed and you shoot each of them once and run behind a nearby car or dumpster, 5-6 rounds may be far more than you need.
I occasionally carry, depending on location, and perceived threat, a 30.5 ounce 5 shot 44 mag. I shoot it very well despite some recoil and blast. I have notice people on the range, well experienced shootings cringe when I fire, they are not combat tolerant like us old military guys, they move down the range often, because of their fear. So much so, that I try to go to a part of the range where I will not bother these many wimps.
And that is how many bad guys behave. A short barrel 44 or even 357 has a lot of blast, and with 500-700 fpe, there is not a lot of reason to shoot them more than once, shoot each once and move, simple deal but you need to train.
When I teach multiple attacks, we generally shoot the farthest guy first, and then each closer one. That puts the hardest shot first, but it also put blast on the first two.
If is not a skill most people will acquire. Most people top out at 9mm, they simply cannot shoot the bigger rounds fast or well. But if you want to carry a wheel gun, consider the bigger bores loaded hot.
For autos, the 10mm is of course the best. But newer powders have the 40 S with a 4 inch barrel exceeding 500 fpe and a 135 grain bullet in excess of 1,400 fps, very simple and very effective. Point is the hottest 40 SW, 10mm, 357 and 44 mag have a lot in common. You do not need a pocket full of ammo if your learn to fight like in combat.
Most self defense training simply does not go that far. Try it, you will either have much more confidence with a hot snub gun, or you will realize the 9mm with a pile of ammo is the best you can do. Whatever works for you skill level is all that matters.
Wheel guns work just fine, but most folks are not good enough and will not take the time to be good enough to rely on them. IMHO
This is not cop work or military applications, this is 2-3 guys on the street. If there are more, the choice change.
I occasionally carry, depending on location, and perceived threat, a 30.5 ounce 5 shot 44 mag. I shoot it very well despite some recoil and blast. I have notice people on the range, well experienced shootings cringe when I fire, they are not combat tolerant like us old military guys, they move down the range often, because of their fear. So much so, that I try to go to a part of the range where I will not bother these many wimps.
And that is how many bad guys behave. A short barrel 44 or even 357 has a lot of blast, and with 500-700 fpe, there is not a lot of reason to shoot them more than once, shoot each once and move, simple deal but you need to train.
When I teach multiple attacks, we generally shoot the farthest guy first, and then each closer one. That puts the hardest shot first, but it also put blast on the first two.
If is not a skill most people will acquire. Most people top out at 9mm, they simply cannot shoot the bigger rounds fast or well. But if you want to carry a wheel gun, consider the bigger bores loaded hot.
For autos, the 10mm is of course the best. But newer powders have the 40 S with a 4 inch barrel exceeding 500 fpe and a 135 grain bullet in excess of 1,400 fps, very simple and very effective. Point is the hottest 40 SW, 10mm, 357 and 44 mag have a lot in common. You do not need a pocket full of ammo if your learn to fight like in combat.
Most self defense training simply does not go that far. Try it, you will either have much more confidence with a hot snub gun, or you will realize the 9mm with a pile of ammo is the best you can do. Whatever works for you skill level is all that matters.
Wheel guns work just fine, but most folks are not good enough and will not take the time to be good enough to rely on them. IMHO
This is not cop work or military applications, this is 2-3 guys on the street. If there are more, the choice change.
Never thought of those things, but I totally agree with you.
My experience was the round I had carried in the chamber FOR MONTHS failed to fire. That one incident ruined me on auto loaders. I now carry a 6 shot snub nose revolver.
But I liked reading your examples
Cite please?
Said by a lot of dead people.
For the last 50 years or so I have carried no fewer than two handguns (often when I was active LE it was more) - just coincidence but right now I'm carrying both an auto (Combat Commander .45) and a revolver (S&W 10-5 3" in .38 spl - but I'm sticking around the house today - when I go to the big city, it might be two 1911s or a 1911 and a .44 Spl. revolver.
To each their own, I have no criticism of whatever each person carries.
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To each their own, I have no criticism of whatever each person carries.
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^^this man has iron pants and hips of stone!
jkingrph
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This may come across as racists but here goes. A little over 50 years ago I was a young USAF officer, going home on leave from Georgia to Louisiana. I had crossed over into Alabama and on a long stretch of US 80 several miles from any town a carload of gentlemen of another color passed me and forced me off the road. I stopped, no choice, and one got out of their car and headed back toward me. I stood out and leveled a big S&W K 38 at him and he suddenly had other ideas, ran back to his car, jumped in and they took off, Never saw them again. Yes my gun diffused the situation with no shots fired.
xfarfuldog
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Revolver vs semi auto, Ford vs Chevrolet, blonde vs brunette. A college professor once told his class 'you pays your money and you takes your choice'. Choose whatever you shoot best. There are pros and cons for both. Most of us here on the forum likely own both r and sa. I started training my dept and in our basic academy with revolvers. In the mid 80's many but not all officers made the change to sa. At that time (in my dept) you bought your own gun. Mos
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imashooter2
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The advice above is how it works for me. An M38 sits on top of the breakfront. When I walk by on the way to the door I reach up and drop it in my pocket. Simple and convenient means I'll have a gun if I ever need one.
As for revolver versus an auto… "If I thought there was going to be trouble, I'd bring a shotgun."
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