DeathGrip
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Zimmerman was a genius just like these two. Just because you can don't mean you should. I don't consider either "Gun People".
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Zimmerman was a genius just like these two. Just because you can don't mean you should. I don't consider either "Gun People".
Jon651
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This couple may well have been the neighborhood jerks. They may well have brought suit against people for minor stuff. I may well have despised them myself if I had known them.
They still have a right to stand on their property with arms (keep and BEAR) and if need be defend their property.
They still have a right to stand on their property with arms (keep and BEAR) and if need be defend their property.
We all agree the couple displayed horrendously bad gun handling. But ... could it be argued that this gun handling was proper in the moment? No question they appeared more threatening by handling the guns as they did vs. if they simply had the guns at their sides pointed at the ground. Maybe given the new rules of society that day - that police would not respond, mobs were burning things, people were beaten in some places - that the property owners should be allowed to bend the laws to adapt to society's new rules for that day? Maybe they could argue more harm would have come to them if they followed the gun handling laws then by ignoring some laws that day.
No. Next question.
Yes, just like every other person in the neighborhood who didn't run out with guns and start threatening the protesters.
And note that the gate in this photo is open, but still intact. At some point, photos show the gate was damaged, but it's not clear how that happened. It is clear, however, that the gate was not broken as part of the initial entry onto the private street, so the claims being offered that the homeowners' reaction was in part a response to witnessing property damage are demonstrably false.
You were there?
Regardless of right or wrong, they deigned to use an evil gun.
The devil demands payment when he grants favors.
Here the devil is Soros and the DA is the one who sold her soul.
The devil will demand further payment as time progresses.
The devil demands payment when he grants favors.
Here the devil is Soros and the DA is the one who sold her soul.
The devil will demand further payment as time progresses.
Even better, I can evaluate objective evidence and utilize critical-thinking skills to derive demonstrably accurate conclusions.
keith44spl
Member
Time will tell.............
This is jest another example of the powers that be,
and how dare anyone resist the tyranny of their over
reach or the lawless violent movement of the anarchists.
Boys it's a coming, to a neighborhood near you,
maybe not today, but someday soon.
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This is jest another example of the powers that be,
and how dare anyone resist the tyranny of their over
reach or the lawless violent movement of the anarchists.
Boys it's a coming, to a neighborhood near you,
maybe not today, but someday soon.
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Did you have all available objective evidence as you employed your superior critical-thinking skills?
Read up on Zimmerman, and you'll learn he knew what he
was doing.
He knew the house was an unoccupied foreclosure, that
juveniles had previously broken in to, and had parties
and even set fires in. Seeing an individual standing
under eave, against house, to stay out of rain at nite,
warranted attention.
Did he call police? Yes...and was walking back from
taking a look on next street, to tell dispatcher the right
street name, minutes after the initial contact had
ENDED. He even told dispatcher "he's gone" and didn't
know where he went. The second contact was initiated
by the decedent, with a blitz attack.
Does that even come close to narrative promoted by
media?
Your critical thinking tells you no other person in that community had a weapon at the ready?
Counselor, I must disagree
It is clear that left panel of gate (looking from public street side,
as in the pic) is opened fully, from the visible top portion.
The right panel (the damaged side) is not visible in the pic.
It is not clear, by any stretch, that the gate was not
damaged as part of the mob's entry onto private property.
You should know by now that conjecture, expressed as fact, removes any need to have actually witnessed the event.
Myself, given what I have read from the reports, will assume that a person living in that community might have reasonably felt threatened by a mob that broke down their gate and trespassed onto their property. Even if said person is a jerk.
I will wait until the experts who actually know the local law and live there complete their investigation before I declare them "unreasonable". Because, well, I wasn't there.
Both my sister and brother live in areas that saw protests. During the protests, a break in was attempted at a neighbor's house. The business district half a block away from my brother was looted. They were quite reasonably concerned.
If they did, they took the right self defense action by staying inside.... behind cover.
Standing out in the open like that, brandishing weapons in an unsafe manner, is not somebody whose first concern is self defense. They are lucky nobody decided to engage with them, because if they had they would have been the first to go down.
Absalom
SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
The only thing embarrassing is that ten years later there are still people obsessing over defending Zimmerman.
Sometime I think that one reason some folks are so desperately defending even the dumbest use of guns by anyone is that in the back of their minds they realize that if they ever draw their gun, there is a good chance they'll screw up too.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Zimmerman found not guilty?
Absalom
SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
So? The McCloskeys have not been found guilty of anything either. This thread is about stupid people doing stupid stuff with guns, not criminal liability.
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