Rougue waves

Was on the USS Exford (a little over 500' long) when a rogue wave hit us about 50 miles east of Cape Hatteras. We went over 52 degrees and it took a loooong while to come back, but she did. Dumped me out of the top bunk onto the porthole and broke off a 12" sea valve, along with other damage and shifted cargo. Left turn into Newport News dry dock. This was about 1965 and was very real.
 
We were off the coast of Japan on the USS Franklin D Roosevelt CVA 42 and they had reported waves coming over the flight deck. But that changed when the guys in the Catapault shack reported that the walkway was gone.
Is it damaged came the reply?. No gone. 60 feet were ripped off as it had never been there. Frank
 
I will never look at Alaskan king crab the same way I used to see it.

Compared to the power of wind and ocean, I think nuclear weapons are just toys for kids to play with.

Mother nature has some serious fury.

Taken over the entire cloud shield of an "average" hurricane, the energy released daily in the form of rain and wind is the equivalent of about 13,000 megatons -- almost equal to the destructive potential of all the weapons in the Cold War missile silos in the United States and the former Soviet Union. That's a million Hiroshima bombs exploded at a rate of more than 10 a second -- 20 Little Boys for each of the 50,000 (estimated) cities on the planet.

Of course lucky for us that energy is spread out over a huge area compared to the blast radius of a nuke. When 6 of you are on a 100+ft piece of steel bobbing around like a leaf in a boiling tea kettle you do get a clue. When the whole boat goes Bong and vibrates like a pipe struck by a sledge hammer you will pray for the welds and when you see a swimming pool of water that was ripped from the top of a wave fly through the air you will be "amazed" A friend of mine sent me this picture of a mid water dragger he was on in the Bering sea, wheel house windows all blown out, covered with mattresses held on by rope, the "house" portion of the boat shoved back 18" out of location held on by broken steel. Electronics, radar, radios, GPS antennas and their wiring gone or worthless because the displays had been soaked in salt water. He is a tough guy and he told me it scared him so bad he didn't need to use the bathroom for 2 days afterwards. LOL The steel awning above his head is normally about 30ft or so above the water line. Look at how it was bent back snapping off multiple welds
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Valcanos
Mount St Helens was a actually a rather small volcanic explosion when viewed with Huaynaputina, Krakatoa, in fact it doesn't even make the top 10. The explosion of the Yellowstone Caldera 640.000 years ago dwarfed those by about 100 times. Its current magma ball could easily fill the Grand Canyon and that gentlemen is one big hole.

Mount St Helen had about the same power as 500 of the bombs used in Hiroshima.
 
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One of the scariest nights of my life January 27, 1996
One dark night on the Bering sea I was doing my 2 hour stint of jogging into a storm, blowing hard 25-30 ft waves. The radar showed 2 big rain squalls ahead of me and I though I was lucky when they passed on either side of me. Then the sea changed. Instead of just one 30 ft wave after another they were coming at different angles, some at least 40ft, turn the boat left to meet one power it up to climb the face then as the boat broke over the top the props would clear the water and you had to throttle down the cats to slide down the back. turn the boat to meet the angle of the next wave and power it up to climb the face of it, Look out to see the jumble of water in front of you that was coming next, then over the top you go throttles back and the world disappearing till your bow buried itself as you hit the bottom of the trough and you slammed them forward again to power the bow up so you climbed the next wave. I remember the guy I was BS on the radio once going dam that was a big wave with appropriate curse words. LOL My right forearm ached from running the throttles and yes, I was scared for a while then that wears off and then dealt with it as there was not one thing I could do about it but just keep running the boat till the next guy took his turn and I go go down to my bunk and try and stay in it. One boat less than 100 miles from us, the Pacesetter, disappeared that night with 7 good men.
Go here and click on a year to see how Alaska fishing takes its toll for the year
Alaska Recent Maritime Losses 1972-2015 – Alaska Shipwrecks
 
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We were steaming in the Gulf of Mexico one right and were hit by a Rogue Wave. It was around 0200 and I woke being thrown out of my rack and it felt as if the ship rolled at least 40 degrees.

Spoke with a buddy who was on the Bridge Watch when it hit and he said it came out of nowhere.
 
As usual I learn something on this forum. I have always suspected that at least some of these waves were caused by geologic activity, even if not formally declared a Tsunami. But Tsunami waves are of a completely different type.

Very interesting thread and I LOVE the sea stories.
 
This morning I ran across a reference to an oilfield disaster that was started due to a rogue wave back in 1982. I'm talking about the Odeco Ocean Ranger disaster, which happened off the Atlantic coast in the Grand Banks area. They were drilling there when a bad winter storm and had done an emergency disconnect from the well and were in a mode to ride out the storm when a rogue wave came along and knocked out a porthole in the ballast control room, which was some real bad juju, to say the least. Since the normal storm waves were 50-65 ft, that meant that salt water was continually coming into the ballast control room, which was 28 feet above the waterline and as you know, salt water doesn't mix with electric and electronic equipment worth a darn and the controls started randomly opening and closing valves in the pontoons. Around midnight or so, Maydays were received from the rig and it capsized around 3:00 AM. There were ships that went to them when they heard the Mayday calls, but were unable to help due to the severe weather.

All 84 people on the rig were lost, all due to a rogue wave and poor design of the rig. Another factor in the death toll was the lack of any survival suits onboard in the middle of winter in the North Atlantic.
 
This is thought by many to have been the cause of the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald on Lake Superior in 1975. It was clear that the bow plunged downward first, nearly in an instant, and that the boat broke in two with the stern ending up upside down at the bottom of the lake. The theory goes that it was hit by a rogue wave from behind, which lifted the vessel end for end, driving the bow into the water, causing the split, and flipping the rear half over. That's one suggested theory anyway.[Disclaimer: I have no maritime experience and am merely reporting what I've read. Inaccuracies are possible.]

Regards,
Andy

I had heard this before but there has been lots of speculation on it so who really knows. Anyway That song about it by Gordon Lightfoot has always been a favorite of mine.
 
For some perspecrtive, here's a gal, yep a gal, tow surfing a 75' wave. Tow surfing is when whipped into a forming wave behind a jet ski, than let go of the rope and have at it.
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H17i_5-ebrc[/ame]
 
Mini Rogue wave......

When we were kids in the 60's my bro and I were playing in the surf at Isle of Palms. We body-surfed and cavorted around and at one point I'm standing in waist deep water facing the beach, while my bro is standing in front of me facing the ocean. Suddenly he got a look of abject terror and his eyes got as big as saucers. I turned around to see what he was looking at just in time to see a HUMONGOUS wave towering over me. I had no time at all to react, so it hit me flat and bowled me over backwards and I hit my head on the bottom, then my knees then my head, then my knees then my head and my knees. I was lucky I wasn't really hurt and as I got to my feet in the shallows my bro was laughing at me. He had time to duck under the wave. He said that all he could see of me was arms and legs going every which way like a Warner Bros. cartoon. Since I wasn't hurt I had to admit that it was really funny. I wish I could have seen it from that angle.:D:D:D


Oh, I forgot to mention in the book we are reading is 'On the Edge of Survival' of the rescue of the freighter crew in the Aleutians in 30' seas. What caused the rescue helicopter to crash was a rogue wave that slapped them out of the sky. They were above the waves trying to lower a basket and saw this thing coming and tried to gain altitude, but it caught them before they could get above it. Then another copter had to rescue them. Unfortunately some of the ship crew that had been picked up died in the incident. I'm pretty sure that they believe in rogue waves.
 
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Rogue waves are pretty common when two different swells are running and they collide. Typical in winter a low pressure system off of Alaska is generating a large open ocean swell of 30' - 50' from 310 degrees (been surfing since 12), and another low pressure system further to the west is generating an open ocean swell of 30' to 50' from 295 degrees....at some point, those two swells will mix in the fetch with the occasional perfect timing of one from each direction smacking against each other at the exact moment they are both pitching (reaching maximum height before collapsing), essentaily merging in one ultra large 'rogue' wave. Many are the stories of storm waves killing sailors.
List of rogue waves - Wikipedia
 
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I think that tsunami must have lot more power than a rogue wave, however large. This is because as the linked article in the post above notes, with a tsunami, an earthquake lifts up the entire surface of the sea. Well, I guess it's actually the entire water volume of an area of the sea from the seabed to the surface. Tsunami are not high at all in the open ocean, and are probably largely unnoticed by ships as they pass under them. As they approach the coast, and the seabed grows shallow, however, they get bigger, the surface of then sea rises further, as there is no longer space below to contain the moving volume of water.

I was in Japan for the 2011 earthquake that moved the entire country eight feet. In Tokyo, where I was, there was a whole lotta shakin' going on. But, up the northeast coast, where the tsunami hit, there were places where the coast was flat that the tsunami penetrated six miles inland. Other places, where seaside villages nestled between mountains, the water went way up — as high as 90 ft as I recall — the mountainsides.

Watching the 2011 tsunami hit Japan — it was well into the age of smartphones so there are lots of videos — it just looks like the surface of the sea has risen higher, and a wall of water, the entire ocean, is rushing in. There is no typical, cresting, discernible wave shape to watch.

About twenty thousand people died in the 2011 tsunami in Japan. The January 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami that hit Southeast Asia killed almost 230,000 people.
 
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Rogue waves are pretty common when two different swells are running and they collide. Typical in winter a low pressure system off of Alaska is generating a large open ocean swell of 30' - 50' from 310 degrees (been surfing since 12), and another low pressure system further to the west is generating an open ocean swell of 30' to 50' from 295 degrees....at some point, those two swells will mix in the fetch with the occasional perfect timing of one from each direction smacking against each other at the exact moment they are both pitching (reaching maximum height before collapsing), essentaily merging in one ultra large 'rogue' wave. Many are the stories of storm waves killing sailors.
List of rogue waves - Wikipedia
Collects makes this point, too, in post 26. Stands to reason.
 
yes, a rogue wavbe is an exceptionally large wave amidst smaller waves...a tsynami is the entire ocean lifting and rising forward...footage of the Japan and Bali tsunamis show just what that means.
 
Back in the early '80s when I was stationed on Oahu, some friends and I were scuba diving near Hanauma Bay but on the southeast side facing the open ocean. Hanauma Bay is the Bay made famous as the home of Elvis Presley's character in "Blue Hawaii". We had finished our dive and were just sitting around relaxing on the little lava plateau that was popular with families and kids to just hang out and lay out in the sun like a small beach. It's not that big, maybe 150' x 50' and was fairly crowded. Suddenly a woman screamed "WAVE"! We turned and looked and there was a large wave bearing down on everyone. The tide was low and the water level was about five feet below the level of the plateau. We had probably less than 10 seconds from first seeing the wave to when it hit and it swept across the plateau about chest high. Amazingly no one was drowned or hurt badly, just a lot of bruises and nasty scrapes from the lava rock. It was one of the freakiest things I've ever seen. The shelf drops off rapidly with the depth going to over a hundred feet less than a hundred yards from the edge of the plateau, hence the popularity with divers, so it went from a little bump in the water to a 10 foot wave very quickly. I don't know what caused it or if it even qualifies as a rogue wave, but it was a freak incident for sure.
 
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