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I pocket carry a 640 Pro everyday, weight doesn't bother me. If you find a 640-1 with pinned front sight you can change it for a night sight or any other front sight you want.
Ruger guy has question about 640
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Packard
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The 640 Pro (.357) weighs 23 ounces empty.
The 642 (alloy frame, SS cylinder) weighs 15 ounces.
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I thought the original 640 in .38 sp was a less beefy frame and was a few oz lighter than the 640-1 and later 640's but I could be wrong.
I know the 642 is super light
Waywatcher
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The weight difference is going to be a fraction of an ounce. You'll save or gain more weight by your choice of grips! 
kthom
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Near as I can tell you, the 640ND/.38 Spec 1 7/8" barrel weighs 21 oz. and the the 640-1/,357 Mag weighs 25 oz as shipped. If I'm close to correct here, that would be four ounces difference between the two. Hopefully, someone can confirm what I've stated here. I believe I'm pretty close!
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I've been looking at these online and I was going to guess 3-4 oz difference. Not much but may make a slight difference for pocket carry.
Put my hands on a used 640 .357 with lock today in a gun shop. They wanted too much but I just wanted to see what she felt like.
Super nice gun. Dry firing the trigger it feels noticeably smoother than the 642's I've dry fired and shot. Opening/closing the cylinder you can just tell it's put together right. I'm in no rush and still need a few more bucks in the gun fund but I'm close
Super nice gun. Dry firing the trigger it feels noticeably smoother than the 642's I've dry fired and shot. Opening/closing the cylinder you can just tell it's put together right. I'm in no rush and still need a few more bucks in the gun fund but I'm close
kthom
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I do not think you will ever regret stretching to buy that gun! I certainly do not, even to the point that I bought a second one. I've been buying and trading guns since the 60's. I bought the first 640-1 I ever saw in person and thought I probably gave too much for it (I didn't!). This happened about four years ago. I liked it so much that when I happened to see a second one for sale about two months ago, I also bought it. I do not regret one cent of the money I spent for either one. Neither of mine have an I/L, but I'd be tempted mightily if I were to see one of those. These guns make excellent EDC revolvers ... heavy enough to shoot well, light enough and small enough to carry easily. I don't think you can do any better ...
riverrat38
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The 640 Pro is a dash 1.
Mine is my EDC. It wears a set of Ahrends Cocobolo butt grips and carries in a Lobo Original Pancake holster. In the summer. I frequently use a High Noon pocket holster.
I think S&W really nailed the 640-1 Pro. Night sights adjustable for windage, but not elevation. Cut for moon clips. I thought I wouldn't use them, but I do. Very easy to switch from a carry load to a snap cap load for dry fire practice. I do not consider the fluted barrel a factor, plus or minus. The gun handles plus P nicely, with a little practice. Full Magnums are doable, but not pleasant. I see no need for them in a self defense carry gun. I carry Speer 135 gr plus pee, and would like to try the Magnum version. The same bullet, but a little higher velocity. Maybe like plus pee plus. But I can't find any. They are nowhere near being full Magnum.
For practice, I load 6.0 gr HP-38 in a Magnum case, under a 125 gr plated flat point (Xtreme).
After carrying the Pro in a good pocket holster, one that fits the pocket well, I have sold my former pocket carry, a M442. No regrets!
I also have a M60-15 that I sometimes carry, a nice Trail Gun (Trail Masterpiece). It only weights about one ounce more, but has sights that are fully adjustable, and the longer barrel. Also, an exposed hammer. Fun at the range. I use the same ammo as the 640 Pro. And the Lobo holster is the same model, but made for the 3 inch barrel. No moon clips on the M60-15. Would be nice to have them the same. On the Trail, I prefer a stouter Magnum in the M60, but I don't want to actually shoot them! Just incase. In a situation where the need would be there, I don't think I would know the difference. I can take a pain pill later.
I have carried the 3 inch M60 in my pocket holster with good results, but I have deep pockets. Physically deep. Not financially deep!
Best,
Rick
Mine is my EDC. It wears a set of Ahrends Cocobolo butt grips and carries in a Lobo Original Pancake holster. In the summer. I frequently use a High Noon pocket holster.
I think S&W really nailed the 640-1 Pro. Night sights adjustable for windage, but not elevation. Cut for moon clips. I thought I wouldn't use them, but I do. Very easy to switch from a carry load to a snap cap load for dry fire practice. I do not consider the fluted barrel a factor, plus or minus. The gun handles plus P nicely, with a little practice. Full Magnums are doable, but not pleasant. I see no need for them in a self defense carry gun. I carry Speer 135 gr plus pee, and would like to try the Magnum version. The same bullet, but a little higher velocity. Maybe like plus pee plus. But I can't find any. They are nowhere near being full Magnum.
For practice, I load 6.0 gr HP-38 in a Magnum case, under a 125 gr plated flat point (Xtreme).
After carrying the Pro in a good pocket holster, one that fits the pocket well, I have sold my former pocket carry, a M442. No regrets!
I also have a M60-15 that I sometimes carry, a nice Trail Gun (Trail Masterpiece). It only weights about one ounce more, but has sights that are fully adjustable, and the longer barrel. Also, an exposed hammer. Fun at the range. I use the same ammo as the 640 Pro. And the Lobo holster is the same model, but made for the 3 inch barrel. No moon clips on the M60-15. Would be nice to have them the same. On the Trail, I prefer a stouter Magnum in the M60, but I don't want to actually shoot them! Just incase. In a situation where the need would be there, I don't think I would know the difference. I can take a pain pill later.
I have carried the 3 inch M60 in my pocket holster with good results, but I have deep pockets. Physically deep. Not financially deep!
Best,
Rick
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This 640-1 has just replaced my 442 as my pocket carry gun. The extra weight doesn't bother me and it feels good knowing I have a stout stainless gun to absorb more of the recoil.
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Thanks for the compliment. The grips are from a model 60 Pro, part #41174 0000. $43 plus shipping. Frequently out of stock.
I have been carrying my 340S for years. The gun is uncomfortable to shoot, but it was designed to CARRY. In fact, how often will you ever draw down on someone? I have, but never had to shoot. The beauty of this gun is it is so light that there is virtually nothing to weigh you down in pocket or on belt. The perfect concealed carry gun. If you have to shoot it, your hand may be a bit more sore than not.
Packard
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I have the 640 Pro. The trigger is definitely not stainless steel. It exhibits the discoloration that heat treated parts show.
Thanks again for everyone help.
I did make a purchase click here if you want to see what I ended up with....
http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1961-1980/444291-new-me-649-2-a.html
I did make a purchase click here if you want to see what I ended up with....
http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1961-1980/444291-new-me-649-2-a.html
Edmo
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Espresso, that is a great looking little J!!
To make the front sights pop on my silver J-frames I coat the back ridge of the front sight with orange model paint.
Put a coat of white on first and the orange will pop even more. I use a toothpick as my "brush".
Again, welcome to the world of J-frames.
Edmo
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