Ruger v. Yildiz

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I have been saving up for a Ruger Red Label over and under shotgun, but some relatives at Christmas who shoot a lot more than I do, said that Yildiz shotguns are just as good for almost 1/3 of the price. Does anyone strongly disagree with statement? If not what are the differences and things to look for in Yildiz shotguns to get the best available. Thank you in advance. Houston Rick
 
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I have had a Red Label for over 20 years and it has been excellent. It is a bit on the heavy side, but we work well together.
 
I have been saving up for a Ruger Red Label over and under shotgun, but some relatives at Christmas who shoot a lot more than I do, said that Yildiz shotguns are just as good for almost 1/3 of the price. Does anyone strongly disagree with statement? If not what are the differences and things to look for in Yildiz shotguns to get the best available. Thank you in advance. Houston Rick

I own two Red Labels, a 28" and a 26". The 28" was the first I bought and fell in love with; but I found it difficult to re-load in a cramped duck blind and if I held it muzzle down in my right hand while dove hunting the muzzle would drag the ground. I bought the 26" gun to resolve those issues.

I've shot live flyers for HRC Hunt Tests twice with a guy that had a Yildiz, and he would apologize for his gun while lusting for mine. I told him do not worry about it, you are dropping the birds. That's the only comparison I can make. I can give you my opinion and experiences with Red Labels.

My guns date to 1995 and 1997 and are 12 gauge with the long Briley choke tubes. They are muzzle heavy which I find helps me keep my swing going if I'm not well practiced. My worst tendency is stopping my swing when I pull the trigger. The action of the Red Labels will break open without struggle and are designed that way.

The Ruger also comes with Ruger's warranty and customer service. The guy that convinced me to give up my 870 and try his old Red Label (after that experience I bought my first Red Label, because my hit rate doubled) sent his late 1980s Red Label to Ruger two years ago because the stock had cracked. Ruger put a new stock on it for free. My 26" has been back to Ruger twice. Once because the the safety would engage after the first shot, the second trip back was because a post for the rib had come loose. They fixed the issues both times for free.

I've taken clay birds, dove, ducks, geese, sand hill crane, pheasant, snakes, an Emu, a few Nutria, a coyote, a feral Pit Bull, and a couple of crows with my Red Labels. If it came down to me having to give up my 629 or my 26" Red Label, I'd probably keep the Red Label.
 
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What the heck is a Yildiz, and what are the repair and sales issues? People know what a Ruger is and where to get one repaired.

Yildiz first came to my attention as a cheap Academy sold East European O/U. They've been around for several years, but I have no idea how they are serviced or imported.
 
Go to a shotgun site and you'll get very different answers.

The Red Label has a long and varied past. Some people love them. Many have had trouble with them. Ruger discontinued them about two years ago and reintroduced them this year. They had a lot of quality control issues in the past, but may have fixed that now. You won't find any serious shotgun shooter using the Red Label for competition.

The Yildiz is made in Turkey and is just a cheap O/U. It's OK at that price level, but not great.

I would counsel anyone looking at these two guns to consider either saving up for a better new gun or looking at a used Browning Citori.
 
Go to a shotgun site and you'll get very different answers.

The Red Label has a long and varied past. Some people love them. Many have had trouble with them. Ruger discontinued them about two years ago and reintroduced them this year. They had a lot of quality control issues in the past, but may have fixed that now. You won't find any serious shotgun shooter using the Red Label for competition.

The Yildiz is made in Turkey and is just a cheap O/U. It's OK at that price level, but not great.

I would counsel anyone looking at these two guns to consider either saving up for a better new gun or looking at a used Browning Citori.

Agreed, Rugers are not competion guns. Mine went back to Ruger twice in the first four years. Since they made it right, it has worked well for my needs in trying conditions.
 
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Over my head. I can't hit beans with a nice shotgun. I'm the knuckledragger who brings the sling equipped, VangComp modified Mossberg 590 to the trap club. :eek: The porting made me really popular; other shooters called it "The Earthmover". My new one is here, and the Aimpoint is mounted. Got a bit more to do, and it will be ready to try.
 
I started hunting with an 870 about 35 years ago,got into clay bird games, traded up for a used 30" citori and still have it.I'm sure the Ruger is better quality than the Turkish gun,but it really depends on what you're going to use it for.Hunting and a little trap or whatever,get a lighter weight field gun.Lots of clay birds,buy something with a long lasting reputation and a little more weight.I love that citori for trap, skeet and sporting clays but it sucks as a field gun ;-)If I still hunted birds I'd be looking for a 2nd shotgun.
 
I always wanted an o/u shotgun. I still use my savage s/s 12ga with 30" barrels I special ordered in the early 70's.
 
I just bought my first 20ga Red Label last year and love it. It's a 1980 gun and was still new. It has a nice balance to it.
I've owned many Ruger products over the years, and they are a great American company.
 
I was told the Turkish shot guns get all kinds of problems...

Personally I would buy a shotgun who's name starts with a B.

They hold value better, a lot of places can repair them if needed. You can find chokes and accessories easy.
 
wheelgun28 mentioned the big problem with even the best grade Turkish arms: repair. According to my local gunsmith, the major problems he has had over the years with Turkish arms are inconsistent quality of materials and fitting and non-availability of spare parts in the USA. According to him, even importers' in-house repair services have had and continue to have major problems getting spare parts!
 
Rick I own a 20 ga "sporting clays" model that I love. I used to shoot the snot out of ducks with it. I've moved on to a Benelli but I don't think I'd ever sell the Ruger as it just firs me and I shoot it well. I really like them and have had no trouble with mine. I wioll say that ther 12 gauge guns are a bit chunky looking for my tastes but I really like the lines of the 20 ga. Heck, if they ever bring back the 28 I might even buy one of them.
 
Get an Ithaca, sorry I am biased but I have had several and haven't been able to wear one out yet.
 
Winchester 101's are a good value and a better alternative to the Ruger Reds. My oldest son has been shooting one regularly for 15 years and the only problem he had were soft firing pins.





Me? I'm a side x side guy. I shoot Spanish (AYA, Dakin) and Italian (Bernadelli Roma).



But in rough weather or deep woods you'll find a Remington Model 11 in my hands.



 
Winchester 101's are a good value and a better alternative to the Ruger Reds. My oldest son has been shooting one regularly for 15 years and the only problem he had were soft firing pins.
The 101 is a decent gun, but you have to qualify it with when it was made. The new model 101s are not the same as the old ones.

The one you pictured is an older gun and they are quite good. The new ones are made in Belgium by FN and are a lower quality gun.
 

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