Russian Ammo BANNED
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LVSteve
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I thought Russian guns had been sanctioned for a while.
It is on AMMOLAND. Looks like it takes effect on Sept. 7 and will last at least 1 year.
UncleEd
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Whaaaaaaaaat????
I won't be able to send my
dollars to Moscow any more?
I won't be able to send my
dollars to Moscow any more?
scoobysnacker
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New ban on Russian imported ammo
Just came across this; apparently happened today (8/20/21). New wave of bans on Russian stuff, which now includes ammunition, stated a minimum of 12 months. Tied to a political situation, one I don't wish to discuss as that's taboo (and I know little about the event in question anyway).
But the impact will be huge for recreational shooters. Be honest, how many folks have been burning through a lot of the premium brass stuff this past year? Hard to get reloading components, so that hasn't been a great option either.
I will lay this out right here- end of July, I decided to stock up a little more, as some (Russian) ammo prices were closing in on sane levels. Case of Tula 7.62x39, $270. Case of Maxxtech (Vympel), 1k of 223, $325. That was from a site with free shipping, so that was the price it cost me.
It wasn't quite the price I wanted, but it was close enough, and I decided I would top off the tank, so to speak. Frankly, I was more concerned that the recent spike in Covid would trigger a new panic buy, and I wanted to get some fresh stuff before it jumped again.
I'm glad I did... appears the days of cheap Tula, Wolf, Brown or Silver Bear, Red Army Standard, Monarch (Academy), etc: all gone. Not just those calibers, but across the board. This stuff has never been seen as match grade or high quality, but for plinking it was great for the price.
Just came across this; apparently happened today (8/20/21). New wave of bans on Russian stuff, which now includes ammunition, stated a minimum of 12 months. Tied to a political situation, one I don't wish to discuss as that's taboo (and I know little about the event in question anyway).
But the impact will be huge for recreational shooters. Be honest, how many folks have been burning through a lot of the premium brass stuff this past year? Hard to get reloading components, so that hasn't been a great option either.
I will lay this out right here- end of July, I decided to stock up a little more, as some (Russian) ammo prices were closing in on sane levels. Case of Tula 7.62x39, $270. Case of Maxxtech (Vympel), 1k of 223, $325. That was from a site with free shipping, so that was the price it cost me.
It wasn't quite the price I wanted, but it was close enough, and I decided I would top off the tank, so to speak. Frankly, I was more concerned that the recent spike in Covid would trigger a new panic buy, and I wanted to get some fresh stuff before it jumped again.
I'm glad I did... appears the days of cheap Tula, Wolf, Brown or Silver Bear, Red Army Standard, Monarch (Academy), etc: all gone. Not just those calibers, but across the board. This stuff has never been seen as match grade or high quality, but for plinking it was great for the price.
My wife told me the same thing today. I don't think Biden could think of this himself. I wonder what will be accomplished by the ban. We must be punishing Russia for something.
Grayfox
US Veteran
I don't believe its about punishing the Russians.
LVSteve
Member
It's all about Navalny and Novichok.
Fact Sheet: United States Imposes Additional Costs on Russia for the Poisoning of Aleksey Navalny - United States Department of State
Fact Sheet: United States Imposes Additional Costs on Russia for the Poisoning of Aleksey Navalny - United States Department of State
Do we get anything else of significance from there? Gillette has a big razor blade factory in st. Petersburg.
UncleEd
Member
This! Sanctions were promised and the gun/ammo
thing is but one small part of U.S. leverage on
Moscow. Kremlin assets are the chief target.
Hurray!
Personally, if this is true, I consider it good news!
Every range that I know of that allows either public access or unsupervised member access is littered with the worthless steel cases from this junk.
I am sure there are safe and responsible shooters, like the OP, who use the Russian stuff for fun.
But, it seems that anytime somebody sneaks an old TV, computer, or other household item onto the range to shoot up, there's a pile of those Russian steel cases that are left behind as well.
Countless times I've seen guys show up, blast through 100 rds or so of this Russian stuff, then quickly grab their stuff and drive off, leaving quite the mess in their wake.
In these parts, there have been a number of range closures due to the immense amount of litter and destruction, in no small part involving voluminous quantities of fired Russian steel cases (not to mention a lot of misfires from defects!).
I make an effort to clean up after these slobs, so it doesn't get out of hand, or get more ranges shut down.
Again, I'm sure there's "good guys" that like this stuff.
But, if this ban puts the kibosh on the slobs, then all I have to say is:
Good riddance!
Personally, if this is true, I consider it good news!
Every range that I know of that allows either public access or unsupervised member access is littered with the worthless steel cases from this junk.
I am sure there are safe and responsible shooters, like the OP, who use the Russian stuff for fun.
But, it seems that anytime somebody sneaks an old TV, computer, or other household item onto the range to shoot up, there's a pile of those Russian steel cases that are left behind as well.
Countless times I've seen guys show up, blast through 100 rds or so of this Russian stuff, then quickly grab their stuff and drive off, leaving quite the mess in their wake.
In these parts, there have been a number of range closures due to the immense amount of litter and destruction, in no small part involving voluminous quantities of fired Russian steel cases (not to mention a lot of misfires from defects!).
I make an effort to clean up after these slobs, so it doesn't get out of hand, or get more ranges shut down.
Again, I'm sure there's "good guys" that like this stuff.
But, if this ban puts the kibosh on the slobs, then all I have to say is:
Good riddance!
These trashy folks won't cease to leave their target litter behind because cheap ammo disappears. They will continue to trash the ranges with the only change being they now clean the area of cases because they had to take up handloading to offset the cost of the more expensive American brass stuff.
Our loss of Russian ammo will be a serious loss to shooters...
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Fact Sheet: United States Imposes Additional Costs on Russia for the Poisoning of Aleksey Navalny - United States Department of State
I do not shoot steel case ammo but this is likely going to raise the price of the brass case ammo I do shoot, at least in the short run.
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Hair Trigger
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I would say it's so the Taliban would have the market to themselves, but they now have so many abandoned US guns to select from now.
max503
Member
There are slobs everywhere. Even at my closely monitored club.
But yes. This ban won't hurt me personally. Still, I would like to have the option to buy this stuff.
It don't bother me at all, now let's stop all Chinese imports too.
Picking up steel cases, your own or litter left by slobs, is easy. At Harbor Freight buy a magnet made for picking up nails at construction sites. The magnet is inside a plastic cylinder at the end of a long tube. At the top of the tube there is a D shaped handle. Inside the D there is a magnet lifter that pulls the magnet up letting the steel trash fall away. When you let go a spring pushes the magnet back down. It's been awhile but mine was under $15.
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