S&W 500 Just for Fun - 4" or 8"?

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I'd like to get a 500 just for fun. No bears & no hunting - just paper punching and Watermelon vaporizing. I'm 47, 6' 5", big hands and not recoil sensitive. The only place I could see keeping it with me is on the deer lease holstered on the ATV handlebar for the Hogs (again overkill but just for fun).

Problem is I can't decide between the 4" or 8+".

Also, I will be reloading for it.

Thanks for any advice.
 
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I have the 10" PC model that I love to shoot. I have never shot the 4" but I imagine recoil is more profound. I have no problem with 440 grn.
 
I've been considering the same thing. I can't justify getting one, but still I'd like to.

My LGS has two -- a new 8 3/8" for $1200 and a consignment 4" gun for $1100.

The used gun seems nearly new with box and all the papers.

They also will sell the used gun without sales tax.

But, also I wouldn't have the warranty.

The 8 3/8 seems very muzzle heavy to me. I'm older and smaller than you, but I feel like I'd need a bi-pod to hold the barrel up. (Just kidding, but it really is muzzle heavy).

The 4" seems much better balanced.

But then, the extra weight would be a plus when you touch off a round with these cannons.

Dave
 
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Since you handload, if you think your round count will be high I think the 8 3/8" would be better. If it will be shot less frequently and with reduced loads the 4" would be handier and still heavy enough to tame the recoil.
 
I've been considering the same thing. I can't justify getting one, but still I'd like to.

My LGS has two -- a new 8 3/8" for $1200 and a consignment 4" gun for $1100.

The used gun seems nearly new with box and all the papers.

They also will sell the used gun without sales tax.

But, also I wouldn't have the warranty.

The 8 3/8 seems very muzzle heavy to me. I'm older and smaller than you, but I feel like I'd need a bi-pod to hold the barrel up. (Just kidding, but it really is muzzle heavy).

The 4" seems much better balanced.

But then, the extra weight would be a plus when you touch off a round with these cannons.

Dave


smith&wesson is going to extend the warranty to you should you need it
 
i have the 7.5"hunter model from the performance center...i do reload for it....it will make short order of large boars
 
I've been considering the same thing. I can't justify getting one, but still I'd like to.

My LGS has two -- a new 8 3/8" for $1200 and a consignment 4" gun for $1100.

The used gun seems nearly new with box and all the papers.

They also will sell the used gun without sales tax.

But, also I wouldn't have the warranty.

The 8 3/8 seems very muzzle heavy to me. I'm older and smaller than you, but I feel like I'd need a bi-pod to hold the barrel up. (Just kidding, but it really is muzzle heavy).

The 4" seems much better balanced.

But then, the extra weight would be a plus when you touch off a round with these cannons.

Dave
For what its worth i just bought the 8 3/8 fixed compensator model and only paid 999 no tax and 5 dollar shipping. I dont know if you can list sites and im not trying to advertise so anyone interested ill turn you to the sight.This was a brand new in box model and i called to confirm it was manufactured 3 weeks before i got it.
 
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I have a pair of 8 3/8" barrel length 500's and currently in the process of shortening one of them to 6". If you are buying one just for blasting any length will work but I would go for the 4" as my first pick followed by the 8" or the better "deal".
 
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i have the 7.5"hunter model from the performance center...i do reload for it....it will make short order of large boars

KennyB - can you sent me a link to your pistol on S&W website so I can look at it?

Thanks
 
Since you cant decide

I say split the difference and get the 6.5" Best of all worlds.

-Not as punishing as the 4"
-More balanced than the 83/8"
-Easier to carry
-Best looking (Im slightly prejudice on this one)

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I kind of believe that a barrel shouldn't be any longer than it needs to be. If I regularly engaged in medium to long range handgun hunting I might prefer an 8-inch barrel, but that's not my pattern. For general purpose shooting I have found that my four-inch 500 is quite accurate. I have an 8-inch 460 that is also extremely accurate, but in no way does it feel like an easy-to-shoot big-bore plinker.

For your purposes I think you should seriously consider the four inch 500. I would also invite you to think about the five-inch John Ross model, which has a couple of custom features that S&W did not see fit to put on the factory versions.
 
I have two 500s, an 8 3/8" and a 4", and love them both. If I had to choose one, though, I would keep the 8 3/8" gun. I am 6'2", weigh more than I should, have large hands, and am not recoil sensitive; however, the muzzle blast from the compensator of the short barrel gun is, at best, annoying, and with fast/light bullet loads, it is downright horrible. In fact, the first time I shot the 4" gun, I was using some 350 grain/1850-1900 fps loads, and it was nearly unbearable to shoot (muzzle blast, the recoil wasn't any big deal). I almost sold it (and I rarely sell any of my guns), but decided to try it once more with a different load (425 grain cast HP at around 1500 fps), and it became a favorite. The 8 3/8" gun is fun with any load, and will stabilize the heavy (600-750 grain) bullets, whereas they won't stabilize from the 4" barrel. Both are very accurate, with the long barrel having a slight edge over 150 yards. I recommend the 8 3/8" gun for your first foray into 500 land, it is easier to fall in love with. Be advised, you will probably buy a 4" later (as I did), but it takes some experimentation to find a load (or loads) that work well in it for you. BTW, not that it matters much, but recoil is noticeably more substantial with the 4" gun, although you will only notice the difference with light loads - heavy loads in either gun are beyond the point that most people can feel the difference - simple physics, the heavier gun resists movement to a greater degree. The difference in compensator design between the two guns does not reduce recoil in the 4" gun to the level of the 8", and certainly does not reduce it below the level of the 8" gun, as some have suggested. Whichever way you go, you're going to have a blast!
 
I had the same question, and was in the same conundrum.
I chose the 4", just because I liked the way it looked and it was easier to carry.

Maybe the 4" kicks a bit more, and it might be louder and make a bigger fireball, but isn't that what you want? :)
 
Cal50 - what is the better deal?

Cost and condition = best deal.

My 1st 500 I got from a co-worker that wanted to get rid of it after firing 3 shots. It was a good deal. My 2nd I traded into and it was good for bothof us that swapped guns. The longer barrel give you max velocity and sight radius and is great for long range or hunting but a handful to pack.
The 6" or 4" balances better ( not as nose heavy ) and can be packed easier.

 
The 4" can double as your CCW gun. 4" in Blackhills High ride holster, Aker belt, "light" 350 gr XTP. I like my 4 better than 8, A carbine in 500 is fun also. Enjoy Be Safe,
 
I'd go with the 8" and get a bandolier holster for it. I do this frequently, not with a 500 but some long barreled 44 Mags. Great for handgun hunting.

4" 500 sounds LOUD and BRIGHT!!!:eek:

I've only shot the 6.5" and 8 3/8" personally.
 
I'd say go for the 8 3/8th barrel model.

What's the primary reason for buying a Model 500? If your answer isn't power, I think you're buying the wrong gun. And if you want power, the
8 3/8th" model has a sizeable velocity/power edge over a 4" barrel as well as reduced muzzle blast and longer sight radius, contributing to better shooter accuracy.

I've had the 6.5" half lug and found it smacks the palm of my hand far more than does the 8 3/8th.

My two .500s are a 6.5" full lug PC model and an original style 8 3/8th which for shooting enjoyment, I prefer to the PC model. Don
 
Today at the range I was sighting in an Aimpoint Micro on my .500 Smith/Wesson. I was shooting 2 feet high at 25 yds, so I moved out to 50 yds. I am resting my revolver on a hard rubber rest, shooting 400 gr. rounds. I touch one off and man.......my last two rounds went off almost as one. I have had slam fires on an AR15 and this was just a fast. It really got my attention. I have shot a T/C Encore .45-70 Pistol with heavy loads and can handle all pistol rounds that I have ever fired, although the .500 is not a lot of fun to shoot. I have probably shot 50 or 60 rds. through it. A glove, "I use a racqueteball glove," helps my a lot and cuts down on the vibration when shooting. My revolver has the 4" barrel.
 
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As earlier stated, go the middle ground and get the 6.5".

The half underlug looks great on the X frame.
 
+1 for the 4in.

Maybe the 4" kicks a bit more, and it might be louder and make a bigger fireball, but isn't that what you want? :)

My feelings exactly! Everytime I pick up my 4" I get a big grin & almost giggle! Since you handload you can have lots of fun with it. I've only used the Hornady 300gr FTX bullets (light, but cheaper than the others) but I've loaded it with everything from Unique to Lil'Gun, from 950fps to near 2000fps, from 600me to ~2500me. I even think the 4" 500 is slightly easier to shoot with full loads than my 7-1/2" SRH 454 Casull with full loads. And after you shoot a heavy load in it (pieces of the acoustic tile fall down), you feel the warmth of the fireball drift over you...crazy! Lyman #49 lists Unique in all bullets weights. These are "light" loads but with 19.0grs of Unique (~1450mv & 1400me), you still get an impressive fireball! :eek:
 
4" inch is the way to go!! If your crazy the do make a snubby also
 
I'd like to get a 500 just for fun. No bears & no hunting - just paper punching and Watermelon vaporizing. I'm 47, 6' 5", big hands and not recoil sensitive. The only place I could see keeping it with me is on the deer lease holstered on the ATV handlebar for the Hogs (again overkill but just for fun).

Problem is I can't decide between the 4" or 8+".

Also, I will be reloading for it.

Thanks for any advice.
The 6.5" .500 is fantastic to shoot! With 350 grain loads delivering 2,000 lb-ft recoil is stout - straight back with little muzzle flip, and completely manageable. It is VERY possible to pump out five rounds of this load rapid-fire and put all into the size of a dinner plate at 20 yards.
But since you didn't mention the 6.5", and since you state you simply want a "fun gun" (which is true of most of us), I'd say go with the 4". It's more compact, the lightest of the breed, and has the least sensation of muzzle weight. While short barrels are intimidating the truth is that short barrel revolvers tend to have less felt recoil because bore time is low - the bullet is "gone" and the instant the bullet leaves the muzzle rearward thrust drops abruptly.
While I carry my 6.5" in a chest rig when I'm out punching around in the desert, the 4" can easily be carried on the belt in a holster...sure it's heavy, but not nearly as heavy as one might think. At 56 ounces empty it weighs only 7.5 ounces more than a M29 6.5"!!! Even the 6.5" M500 weighs just 12.5 ounces more. Of course the cartridges are considerably heavier - I weighed some 300 grain Rainier plated HP's loaded with 34.5 grains of AAC-9 that averaged 525 grains per round or 6 ounces for five cartridges. This would bring the 4" barrel model up to 62 ounces fully stoked...not bad and not much heavier than a long-barreled M29, and certainly not much if any heavier than a long-barreled Ruger SRH! Yet even the 4" barrel is capable of delivering stupifying kinetic energy and bear in mind most - if not all factory .500 ammo is loaded well below maximum simply because the round is SO powerful pushing the limit is not needed. This is contrary to even the vaunted .44 Magnum where one tends to feel the need to push handloads to the maximum - especially from 4" barrels to ensure terminal effect. There is no other 4" barreled revolver or pistol of any make that can match or exceed the S&W M500. Since you're not interested in some "specialized" pursuit, for general carry the 4" is your choice - period.
 
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I have the 4" and like it for what I do, which is carry it in an OWB holster and shoot with it occasionally. It's proven big medicine for hunting feral/wild boar and black bear. I've replaced the comp with the blank insert, which I prefer. My 4" 629 works also but the 500 even more so.
If you were going for all-out performance for either hunting or down-range ballistics, the longer barrel may be what you want.
 
I have a 4' that was given to me on my 50th birthday. I use it for Elk as my side arm.I shoot the 500gr factory loads but also reload the 500 gr and I have some 350 gr loaded that i need to try out. I had a custom OWB holster made for it and also because I like the thumb break and the one the factory sells didn't have that. I really like the 4 I do know this, no matter what barrel you decide on you will get lots of looks at the range for shooting that hand cannon!! lol
 
I have several 500s

2 3/4"
4"
5"
6 1/2"
8 3/8"
10 1/2"
12"

Love them all, each for different reasons.

If I were only buying only one and it was for fun, I would go with the 5" JR from the Performance Center if money were not an issue and the 4" if price was an issue.
 
I also echo the 6 1/2" .500
I love mine as well as the JR Performance Center .500 in 5"
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Neither has that bad of recoil, unless your using the 500gr or 700gr.
With the 325gr you can shoot all day.

Ernie
 
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