S&W 586 from Gunbroker...Help Please!

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Hey guys,

I was recommended to this forum by a buddy of mine. I need some advice. GB listing is at the bottom of the page.

I've been dying to get a 586 6 inch for a long time. I saw one on GB and decided to put a bid on it since it was so cheap. I then sent the guy a message asking about the gun history, rounds, etc. He lists the item as good condition.

The guy didn't get back to me and I ended up winning the auction. However, now he has messaged me saying there is holster wear on the gun, some blemishes, etc. He's also a pawn shop, so he doesn't know the history behind the gun but says it's all in working condition.

I know I messed up bidding, I know I made a mistake. My question is do I continue with the sale or what? Are blemishes usually easy to buff out, etc?

SMITH & WESSON MODEL 586 6 INCH 357 MAGNUM : Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
 
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Looks like it will make a good shooter. Buy it clean it & shoot it. I think it would take a lot to wear one of these out.
 
Looking at the pictures the gun doesn't look bad. I don't think you did bad on the price and would think if your not happy with it you could turn it and get your money back out of it. Just my .02. Love the 586 though.
 
Agreed... judging by the price you got it for and the pics, I'd say you came out doing good.

It looks better than some 586's I've seen for sale locally with price tags of $100+ higher. "Blemishes" is a pretty broad term, what is considered a "blemish" to one person might not be such a big thing to another person, especially if you've been on the hunt for one of these at a good price for awhile.

I was in that position with a 4" bbl 586... I was lusting after one for years. When I finally got one, somehow... after a few weeks, the "warts" faded away. I'm positive it was brought on by the enjoyment I got from shooting it. Kind of like having a slightly homely girl friend... after awhile she ain't so bad :D:D:D

Shoot it... enjoy it...

When you have the gun in hand... post some pics of the "blemishes", I'm sure we're all curious to see just how "bad" the gun actually is.
 
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I think that you are bound by your word to follow through with the purchase. If you get the gun and it has not been accurately described then you take it up with the seller.
I do not see anything wrong with the 586 that you bought, but it might look better, or worse than what I think, that is why a lot of people only buy what the can handle before purchase. In my opinion you got a fair deal for a nice condition, very desireable handgun.
 
Id go ahead and pay for it and if you don't like it,flip it.Ive learned never to buy from a pawnshop on an auction site.The photos are always poor and they are slow to answer and vague with any answers.
 
Also, you never know what's under those ugly rubber grips.
They are known to trap moisture causing rust.
Or, Bubba could have round-butted it on his bench grinder.
This happened to me on a 28-2.
I would never buy off an auction that didn't show it with the grips off.
 
If you back out of the sale, the seller must auction it again.
It's your bad for bidding without your questions answered.
I've asked sellers questions, and if they didn't answer before the auction ended, I didn't bid.
Hopefully you'll be pleasantly surprised by the condition of the gun. And if not, as others have said, resell it, and you shouldn't loose to much on it.
 
Finish the transaction; pictures aren't great but it likely will clean up nicely and shoot well. Certainly hasn't been abused although it would have been nice to see the frame without the grips on it. Chances are it is fine though. Get it, shoot it, enjoy it. Occasionally there can be unpleasant surprises with used handguns but I've found that to be the exception with quality products such as a S&W 586.

Jeff
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I think you got a pretty good deal. It does not appear to have a turn ring, so it probably has not been shot a lot. Also, it has the Patridge front sight, and those do not appear very often. I bought one when they first came out, and it has at least 50,000 rounds through it. It is has some wear, but it still shoots like it was new. Lets see some good pictures when it arrives, and we can offer more informed opinions. :-)
 
I know the pictures suck, but if you open on a mobile phone, you can kind of zoom in. This is what I did, and I think I see something that looks like rust near the hammer? Does anyone else see that?

Thanks so much for the replies so far!
 
mrmutzie said:
I know the pictures suck, but if you open on a mobile phone, you can kind of zoom in. This is what I did, and I think I see something that looks like rust near the hammer? Does anyone else see that?

Thanks so much for the replies so far!
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If you're talking about the "discoloration" on the hammer I think that is the case coloring. Hard to tell from the pictures but looks normal to me. I think you're going to like this one; get it, give it a good cleaning, and get it to the range. Then let us know what you think. Still looks like a good deal to me

Jeff
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Expecting perfection when bidding low isn't going to net you the desired results.

You got it cheap.

As long as it's mechanically sound, you're good to go.

Round count... irrelevant in its entirety. Might be important when buying a semi auto in order to know if the recoil spring needs replacement, but on revolvers, not at all important.

Check the forcing cone, B/C gap, timing and if all's well, enjoy your new excellent revolver you got for a good price.
 
You have what's known as the buyer's remorse but you still need to follow through with your purchase. If once you receive it, it is in an egregiously worse condition than it appeared in the pictures, then you are in the right to take it up with the seller but not before you pay for and receive it. Bottom line is, once you've bid you are obligated, both ethically and by the rules of GB, to pay if your bid wins the auction.
 
22hipower said:
If you're talking about the "discoloration" on the hammer I think that is the case coloring. Hard to tell from the pictures but looks normal to me. I think you're going to like this one; get it, give it a good cleaning, and get it to the range. Then let us know what you think. Still looks like a good deal to me

Jeff
SWCA #1457
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I agree with Jeff about the discoloration probably being part of the case-hardening of the trigger, and not a rust issue. You got a good deal on this revolver for what it is, I think. Also, the seller has a good track record (doesn't appear that they sell on GB very often, but gets good feedback), so I think you're going to be fine with this one. As one poster on here is fond of saying, "Buy it, shoot it, love it." :)
 
mrmutzie said:
I know I messed up bidding, I know I made a mistake. My question is do I continue with the sale or what? Are blemishes usually easy to buff out, etc?

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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Blemishes in a gun are much easier to clean up than blemishes in one's reputation from not consummating an agreed upon deal.


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...luv the gun..... slap some wood grips on her and she will be a great buy that you will not regret.....

once you shoot revolvers you can't go back to auto plastic guns.... trust me on this one....
 
Blemishes....... does not have a definition.......

That looks to be in better than good shape at a decent price....... you did at least OK IMHO........ go and enjoy!!!

I have 2 really really nice 586s a 6" and a round-butt 4".......they have become safe queens.......... I would love to have a shooter grade 4" 586....... but alas..... I must make due with a 686 or 681 shooter
 
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b_san said:
You have what's known as the buyer's remorse but you still need to follow through with your purchase. If once you receive it, it is in an egregiously worse condition than it appeared in the pictures, then you are in the right to take it up with the seller but not before you pay for and receive it. Bottom line is, once you've bid you are obligated, both ethically and by the rules of GB, to pay if your bid wins the auction.
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What b san said^
 
My 2 cents...you got a fair deal. Looks like very little wear on the gun, if any. Follow through with the purchase, shoot the gun and make sure it is in good working order. Clean it well (don't go crazy, it is a blued gun) and enjoy it. If you are unhappy, you should be able to sell it or trade it for good value.
 
I agree with most of what's been said here. To add a little, be careful what you use to clean the gun. Some cleaners will remove bluing and make a small blemish a big mistake. Also, stay away from an electric grinder/polisher (Dremel). No blemish is bad enough to deserve that. And last, read some of the past threads on this forum. There's a ton of good information here.
When you get that bad boy home, post better pictures and come back to this forum for advice on cleaning, shooting, whatever. You'll get plenty of enthusiastic help.
 
Those pics aren't great, but they're not terrible either. Blued guns photograph much easier than stainless or nickel. There looks to be the slightest wear on the high spots on the muzzle, or it could be just the hot spots from the camera flash. One thing that I notice is that it still has the factory trigger stop. This would be a pretty good indicator that the sideplate has never been off. Those were usually the first things to go with any "non-factory" gunsmithing. Finally, the grips show much more wear than is evident on the gun. My guess is that the original grips were nice and minty, so the seller decided to keep them. If that's indeed true, it suggests that the gun itself is in similar condition.

Keep your word on the transaction. You have recourse if the seller egregiously misrepresented the product. However, from what I can tell, I doubt that is the case. On the other hand, if you bail, the seller has recourse by giving you bad feedback. Don't be that guy. I have a feeling you got a nice deal on a very coveted firearm. Oh, and if you expect to stay on this forum, you must post pictures when you get it ;)
 
You need to follow through. I think you did fine. Whats the worst case? I can't see you losing much $, if any, if you choose to sell it. It's probably not worth the worry.

I love the 586. Like many people.
 
I just paid 550 for a 4 inch in similar condition and didnt blink twice. I think it is a fair price. +1 on adding wood to it though. Blue and wood were just made to go together.
Ted
 
It doesn't look bad. Ditch those horrible looking rubber grips and replace them with some pretty wood and you'll immediately see a 100% improvement in its appearance.
 
Welcome to 'your' forum.
Let's think about this logically... You bought a weapon that enjoys a fine reputation at a fair price. Although the wear and tear will vary with each individual piece, the weapon enjoys this reputation because has earned it from it's many loyal fans. Your chances of getting a lemon are remote. Sure we've all been burned but I think you'll luck out on this one.
Do us all one favor. If you are not familiar or are at all uncomfortable with the operations of this weapon, head spacing or what ever - get off to your local Gun shop or smithy and ask them to look over the 'mechanicals' for you. It will build your confidence in the weapon and you may even find that you've done quite well. You're going to use it as a shooter and my guess is that you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Best of luck with it and stop by here with any questions.
 
CatboatWilly said:
Welcome to 'your' forum.

Do us all one favor. If you are not familiar or are at all uncomfortable with the operations of this weapon, head spacing or what ever - get off to your local Gun shop or smithy and ask them to look over the 'mechanicals' for you. It will build your confidence in the weapon and you may even find that you've done quite well. You're going to use it as a shooter and my guess is that you'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Finally, somebody is singing my song. By all means take it to a smith and have him evaluate for you. It is what I did when I bought used guns, which I no longer do.

Kaaskop49
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