S&W 625 help!

I have 2 625's... 625-8 5 inch full lug & a 625-9 4 inch mountain gun..
MG is in 45lc.. but am hoping to get it cut for moonclips to make it a "convertible"... RIMZ are great for the range.. think of moonclips like loading one bullet that goes bang 6 times..
 
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I bought 45 Auto Rim brass and my moon clips are now sitting in a draw. Except for contingencies during world wars, moon clips are a solution looking for a problem.
 
The OP ask about which 625, not moon clips! First you must ask yourself what is the primary purpose of your new 625! S&W has made the 625 since 1988. This was a 5" full under lug gun and shortly after that they introduced the 3" & 4". The only way you will find one of these guns is on the used market. Later they dropped the 5" and made the 4" standard production because of an IDPA rule change. If you don't like the full underlug your only choice is a 45 ACP mountain gun, a 4" thinner barrel non underlug gun. Again you will need to haunt the used market for one. Production today is the JM 4" gun and the PC 4" guns. I would recommend the 5" model of 1989 on the used market and rather easy to find. I own 2 and have the 3" also!
IMHO - Load clips at home - shoot at the range and don't chase brass
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jcelect

Lots of good info. Thank you!
 
Hahaha, only dropping this reply because I'm first on the scene. Nobody will share my opinion.

Moon clips just suck. For so many reasons. Folks who love these guns absolutely love them and I respect that for sure. I tried... twice. But the moon clips and everything about them are no fun.

With that said... proceed good sir! :D

I find RIMZ moon clips work great for shooting my 625 at the range and don't require tools.
 
Another fan of the M625 and full moon clips here.

Back about 1999, my duty .45 1911 was giving me some feeding problems, so I strapped on my 5" M625 .45 ACP. After a week or so, the extra weight of that 5" full lug barrel began to wear on me. Remember, I was a patrolman and had to carry all of the other stuff on my Sam Browne belt.

I called S&W, looking for a 4" Mountain Gun barrel, but they had none. Brownells had a full lug 3" barrel, so I bought that and swapped it out. As noted in post #15, four full moon clips will fit in an N frame double speedloader pouch, 2 moons with the bullet points down and 2 moons with the bullet points up.

During qualifications, I could reload as fast or faster that my fellow officers armed with semi-autos. I out-shot most of them too. :)

I retired in 2001, still carrying that 3" M625. I later sold it and bought a 4" Mountain Gun, which I consider the finest fighting revolver built IMNSHO.
 
I've always been a simi-auto guy. But now I've decided to tip toe into revolvers. I need some advice on what seems to be many variants of the 625. There's the JM, performance center, the mountain version, as well as many " 1 of 500" or whatever # they made.
I want to shoot 45acp since I reload them. I don't have a problem spending enough to get a really nice or special one.
Advice or recommendations???[/quote

Great guns.
Best,
Gary
 
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I know the OP asked about 625's in 45 ACP, but the OP should know that not all of us are enamored with moon clips.
I have owned a few 45 ACP smith revolvers and they cured me of 45 ACP revolvers.
I know I am in the minority, but I do not like moon clips. .
I solved my problem by buying a 625-6 in 45 Colt. Does everything that an ACP will do and then some. Two speed loaders in my pocket and I am good to go.
Just another opinion that is worth the cost of admission.
 
Hahaha, only dropping this reply because I'm first on the scene. Nobody will share my opinion.

Moon clips just suck. For so many reasons. Folks who love these guns absolutely love them and I respect that for sure. I tried... twice. But the moon clips and everything about them are no fun.

With that said... proceed good sir! :D

This is the truth.

I use them and get lazy about midway through a shooting session, and start dropping them straight into the chambers with no moon clips.

Auto rim is the only way to go if you want to shoot them and just have fun.
 
I shoot a 625-8 PC w/CT grips, great revolver, I use both moon clips and auto rim and, find both to be very good. Any 625 you decide on will not disappoint you.
 

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I have a 625JM I bought in about 2006 or so and love it and the moon clips. Bought for IDPA and at lost brass matches I don't lose brass I just pick up my moon clips. I also use it as my carry piece at times, makes sence to me as that is the handgun I shoot the most and the best. The JM grips make the grip pretty long for concealment so went with Hogue Bantam grips. Much easier to conceal and I found I like them better for IDPA than the JM grips so the Houges stay.
Having spent the last year in the process of moving and settling into the new house I have shot up pretty much all my 45acp reloads and not much time to shoot. The one match I did hit this year I picked up some WWB and couldn't reload for nothing, rounds just wouldn't fall in. Finally figured out when reloading for the revolver I finish with a roll crimp. Does not seem like much but it sure made a big difference for me.

Almost forgot; another nice thing about shooting moon clips at IDPA, I have enough of them to load enough for an entire match so no messing around between COFs. Jim.
 
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I've always been a simi-auto guy. But now I've decided to tip toe into revolvers. I need some advice on what seems to be many variants of the 625. There's the JM, performance center, the mountain version, as well as many " 1 of 500" or whatever # they made.
I want to shoot 45acp since I reload them. I don't have a problem spending enough to get a really nice or special one.
Advice or recommendations???

I have a few of the ACP revolvers. jcelect is correct. Decide what is important to you in a revolver. I prefer 4" barrels on N frame revolvers. Full lugged barrels are sluggish in my hands so I find the tapered barrels preferable. For EDC, I prefer fixed sights. That limited me to the Model 22-4 and the Thunder Ranch version of the same unless I cut the barrel on a 1917 or the 1950 Army. For adjustable sights with the 4" tapered barrel my choices were the Mountain Gun or custom.

If you like the full lugged barrels your choices expand some. If you like longer barrel, like 5 1/2", you can still find 1917s and the occasional 1950 Army. And don't forget the target versions, the Model 1950 and the Model 1955.

I have fired most of the ones I mentioned and all have performed well. I have a Model 28-2 that I converted to 45 ACP in the 80s and it too is a good performer.

I have no desire to emulate JM, so moonclips for me are a convenience. I competed with revolvers and depended on them long enough that my reloads are fast and without thought. Yours will becomes so also, with time.

The older revolvers should probably stay with hardball equivalent reloads or softer. The newer Models can handle the 45 Super so there is a range of power available.

My moonclips come from Ranch Products. They are the originator of the modern full moon clip (I believe). Buy them in bulk and they are not expensive. Load them up before leaving the house and shoot all day! Tools for loading and unloading can be simple homemade items or fancy storeboughts. For years I used a large pair of water pump pliers to squeeze two rounds at a time into the clips. A pipe of tubing with the end shaped properly gets them out of the clip but so does a metal ammo can. Slip the empty case into the corner and pull straight out. The empty drops into the box.

So once you figure what you want to do, the rest is easy!

Good luck!

Kevin
 
I have a few of the ACP revolvers. jcelect is correct. Decide what is important to you in a revolver. I prefer 4" barrels on N frame revolvers. Full lugged barrels are sluggish in my hands so I find the tapered barrels preferable. For EDC, I prefer fixed sights. That limited me to the Model 22-4 and the Thunder Ranch version of the same unless I cut the barrel on a 1917 or the 1950 Army. For adjustable sights with the 4" tapered barrel my choices were the Mountain Gun or custom.

If you like the full lugged barrels your choices expand some. If you like longer barrel, like 5 1/2", you can still find 1917s and the occasional 1950 Army. And don't forget the target versions, the Model 1950 and the Model 1955.

I have fired most of the ones I mentioned and all have performed well. I have a Model 28-2 that I converted to 45 ACP in the 80s and it too is a good performer.

I have no desire to emulate JM, so moonclips for me are a convenience. I competed with revolvers and depended on them long enough that my reloads are fast and without thought. Yours will becomes so also, with time.

The older revolvers should probably stay with hardball equivalent reloads or softer. The newer Models can handle the 45 Super so there is a range of power available.

My moonclips come from Ranch Products. They are the originator of the modern full moon clip (I believe). Buy them in bulk and they are not expensive. Load them up before leaving the house and shoot all day! Tools for loading and unloading can be simple homemade items or fancy storeboughts. For years I used a large pair of water pump pliers to squeeze two rounds at a time into the clips. A pipe of tubing with the end shaped properly gets them out of the clip but so does a metal ammo can. Slip the empty case into the corner and pull straight out. The empty drops into the box.

So once you figure what you want to do, the rest is easy!

Good luck!

Kevin
Mr. ezee, please accept my apologies! We, on this forum/thread, have turned your original post into a discussion of moon clips! I would like to welcome you to the forum and I can only hope we have helped you with your decision to purchase a 625! Almost any of the 625s on the market, new and used, will be enjoyable to shoot! I have owned at least one for 25+ years and have enjoyed shooting them in bowling pin matches.

Suggestion; if you are a reloader, revolver - roll crimp and auto - taper crimp. The key to shooting and enjoying moon clips is to have many!
jcelect
 
It seems there ought to be more 625s (and 25s) on the used market.
USPSA pretty much obsoleted them for Revolver Division when they allowed the 8-shooter .38 Shorts. Maybe they are just on the back of the gun safe shelf. Maybe there aren't all that many Rev. Div. shooters.
 
I never understood why the 625 was not the best selling N frame. The 625 is very versatile and plenty capable of carrying concealed during the week, shoot competitively on Saturday, and hike in the mountains on Sunday. Everybody wants to buy a 629 in 44 mag which has expensive ammo for range, 44spl, and expensive ammo for woods carry, 44mag. Range ammo, and self-defense ammo, for the 625 is fairly cheap and a lot easier to find than 44spl. Good hard cast or flat nose ammo for the 625 isn't any more expensive than 44 mag ammo.
 
I never understood why the 625 was not the best selling N frame. The 625 is very versatile and plenty capable of carrying concealed during the week, shoot competitively on Saturday, and hike in the mountains on Sunday. Everybody wants to buy a 629 in 44 mag which has expensive ammo for range, 44spl, and expensive ammo for woods carry, 44mag. Range ammo, and self-defense ammo, for the 625 is fairly cheap and a lot easier to find than 44spl. Good hard cast or flat nose ammo for the 625 isn't any more expensive than 44 mag ammo.
Yeah, my two 625's are probably my favorite handguns at this point in time, due to the fun factor more than anything else.
 
I shoot a 625-8 PC ,tuned it with a wolf springkit and had some issue,s with light primer strikes , now with a extended firing pin ,the gun shoots great with a light single and double action triggerpull ,also replaced the cylinder release for aextended cylinder release
I like it more than my S&W 1911 who i recently sold
Great for competition shooting and never searching for your brass
 
.......... I don't have a problem spending enough to get a really nice or special one.
Advice or recommendations???


Here's how I would approach deciding on what to buy in a 625:

  • Finish - do you prefer bead-blasted, brushed stainless, or have no preference? The majority of straight-up 625's I've seen (and own) have been in the bead blasted finish, of which I'm not a particular fan. I prefer the brushed stainless. If you share that preference, that may limit your choices. Others here can tell you what specific models are available in what finishes, if this matters to you.
  • Drilled and tapped for optics or not? Older models were not drilled and tapped, newer models are. Again, consider this if it matters.
  • Barrel length - I've seen them in 3", 4", and 5". I like them all :)
  • Do you require adjustable sights, or would you consider a fixed-sight .45ACP revolver? If you're considering fixed sights, you may want to look for a Model 22-4. I've seen these in both blued and nickel finishes, mostly with 4" barrels. I must say that I really like the nickel finish 22-4 revolver! The barrel contour on the 22-4 is is VERY similar to a 625 Mountain Gun - in that it is a slim barrel profile with no underlug. Might be a consideration if you want to carry one of these N-frames around in a holster!
Good luck narrowing your choice down to (only) one of the above! :)


Lou
 
To be honest, the biggest question is do you spend the extra money for a prelock or settle for an internal lock gun. A used 625 with the lock can be found for about $700. The older prelocks get closer to a $1k. If you want a factory 3" you are looking at around $1300 but all of them should be prelock.

The fairly rare 2" 625-10 or 625-11 go for over 1k even with the lock. These guns are fairly fragile with an alloy frame.
 

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