S&W 640 Pro Series - The Ultimate Snubnose
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keninnavarre
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I bought one on 01/03/2012. It's proven to be one of my favorites and one of my best new gun purchases. I changed my grips to the Uncle Mike's boot grip common on 642s for pocket carry. It's heavy, but hey, it's a true hand cannon. The sights are what sold me, and the lack of lock, of course. The sights make a huge difference in the J-frame shootability, IMHO.
Here is one with Esmeralda's Andean Alder wood grips and S&W Combats..I posted this in another thread recently but it really fits better here.
And with S&W Combats
And with S&W Combats
Thought I had all the guns I wanted
I must admit, that is one beautiful revolver and I will have to start looking for one. Thanks for the post, that is the first I have seen it. I have a 340 PD which is nice but think this has it beat.
I must admit, that is one beautiful revolver and I will have to start looking for one. Thanks for the post, that is the first I have seen it. I have a 340 PD which is nice but think this has it beat.
Realzebub45
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On a side note, is it called a "Hillary Hole" because no one in their right mind would put their "key" in it?
Very nice review. One of the best guns SW has come out with in a long time plus no stupid lock, I like your BH leather holster , will have to find one of those. You may want to consider changing out the rebound spring to a lighter 13 or 14 lb. It makes the trigger so much smoother and will not effect ignition.
I was going to get one but I have a regular 640 done by Gemini.
I also was lured by the 327 Federal Magnum and 6 shots so I got that one. I see by the new catalog that they no longer have it. Guess not enough interest in the 327 Mag, I think it is a great round plus it can shot 32 mag and regular 32. I reload so ammo is not a problem. I much prefer shooting the 327 Federal out of the J frame, the 357 Mag is too much for me so I load it with +P 38's.
Little brother 6 shot.
115 Gold Dots chronographed at 1289 FPS, the 110 JSP Federal are 1327 fps and the 85 gr Hydra Shoks 1337 FPS
I was going to get one but I have a regular 640 done by Gemini.
I also was lured by the 327 Federal Magnum and 6 shots so I got that one. I see by the new catalog that they no longer have it. Guess not enough interest in the 327 Mag, I think it is a great round plus it can shot 32 mag and regular 32. I reload so ammo is not a problem. I much prefer shooting the 327 Federal out of the J frame, the 357 Mag is too much for me so I load it with +P 38's.
Little brother 6 shot.
115 Gold Dots chronographed at 1289 FPS, the 110 JSP Federal are 1327 fps and the 85 gr Hydra Shoks 1337 FPS
tomtheturner
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I got a 640 Pro about a year ago, and really like it. I agree with all of the rest of you that S&W really got it right with this gun.
You should all be aware that there are two thicknesses of moon clips for this revolver. .025, & .020. The ones that come with the gun are .025 and fit most brands of cartridges. The .020 clips are for Winchester, Hornady Critical Defense, and Speer Gold Dot. Don't try to put the cartridges designed for the .020 clip on the .025 clip, or you can bend the clip.
They are both manufactured by T K Customs, and are available from them.
Best Wishes,
Tom
You should all be aware that there are two thicknesses of moon clips for this revolver. .025, & .020. The ones that come with the gun are .025 and fit most brands of cartridges. The .020 clips are for Winchester, Hornady Critical Defense, and Speer Gold Dot. Don't try to put the cartridges designed for the .020 clip on the .025 clip, or you can bend the clip.
They are both manufactured by T K Customs, and are available from them.
Best Wishes,
Tom
Roy Odhner
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Swee-eet gun, MM6MM6, and I know just why you like it so much.
I had been saving to get myself a really nice gun for my 50th birthday. I love snubbies, but have never owned a nice one. But, I had not made up my mind as to what type of gun I was gonna get. I've always wanted a PPK or a 1911, and was leaning toward one of those. Then I went to Cheaper than Dirt looking for .38spcl range ammo. They didn't have any, of course.
Then I made the mistake of strolling over to the gun counter and saw it - the Smith Model 640 Pro-Series. The best sights I've ever seen on a snubby, the impeccable S&W fit and finish, the awesome trigger pull, the great balance, the great grip... it followed me home, and it is my 50th BD present to myself.
I managed to scrounge up some ammo, and took it to the range. Swee-eet! The Trijicon sights make all the difference in the world, and I've got to say that it is the best snubby I've ever owned. Got it stoked with 110 grain WWB .357 right now, cuz that's the only .357mag I can find. But this Friday I'm gonna try some Remington 158gr FMI loads (.38spcl). I have no problem with carrying a snubby for an EDC, and this S&W 640 Pro-Series is one heck of a sweet primary carry. It's well-worth the extra coin, and in this case I think Smith really does have a right to charge a premium price.
I had been saving to get myself a really nice gun for my 50th birthday. I love snubbies, but have never owned a nice one. But, I had not made up my mind as to what type of gun I was gonna get. I've always wanted a PPK or a 1911, and was leaning toward one of those. Then I went to Cheaper than Dirt looking for .38spcl range ammo. They didn't have any, of course.
Then I made the mistake of strolling over to the gun counter and saw it - the Smith Model 640 Pro-Series. The best sights I've ever seen on a snubby, the impeccable S&W fit and finish, the awesome trigger pull, the great balance, the great grip... it followed me home, and it is my 50th BD present to myself.
I managed to scrounge up some ammo, and took it to the range. Swee-eet! The Trijicon sights make all the difference in the world, and I've got to say that it is the best snubby I've ever owned. Got it stoked with 110 grain WWB .357 right now, cuz that's the only .357mag I can find. But this Friday I'm gonna try some Remington 158gr FMI loads (.38spcl). I have no problem with carrying a snubby for an EDC, and this S&W 640 Pro-Series is one heck of a sweet primary carry. It's well-worth the extra coin, and in this case I think Smith really does have a right to charge a premium price.
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Glad you got one. Congrats.
What is your opinion on the standard trigger pull weight?
Triggernosis
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On a side note, is it called a "Hillary Hole" because no one in their right mind would put their "key" in it?
Y'all are about to make me sick speaking of Hillary and a hole....
I know you ask the Op by I find mine very stiff. I plan to have a trigger job done to lighten it up a little or do a spring kit job myself. I have a 649-3 that is older and the trigger on that is much smoother. If I could take that trigger and put it on my 640 pro I would be in High Cotton.
JJEH
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Very nice revolvers here...
Well, somebody did
On a side note, is it called a "Hillary Hole" because no one in their right mind would put their "key" in it?
Well, somebody did
The trigger is standard SW J frame. Really heavy. same as all their other guns. The Pro Series does nothing for trigger action like the PC guns have.
As I mentioned above I changed the rebound to 13lb and polished the rebound slide and other wear areas. Makes a big difference. On a carry gun I leave the mainspring alone. Changing it only reduces it by 1/2lb anyway.
BobR1
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I totally agree, S&W got it right on this one. The look, the sights, and the right platform to perfect. The 640 is a durable platform with stainless steel construction. The 640 has enough weight to be shootable. The barrel really sets it off, and adds a great deal to it's looks. For serious carry the XS front sights are as good as it gets. Whats not to love.
A Blued version for a Barbecue Gun might be a good follow up to the 640 Pro.
I have a 442 Pro Moonclip, and the trigger on it was not bad at all out of the box. One of the wifes horse riding buddies has a regular 442 for her concealed carry gun, and the trigger was a little stiff to say the least. I added a Wolff Spring kit with 13 pound rebound spring to it for her, and the trigger pull is now just like my 442 Pro was from the factory. This led me to believe the factory may be using Wolff springs in the Pro Models. Just my observation, not based on any official information.
Bob
A Blued version for a Barbecue Gun might be a good follow up to the 640 Pro.
I have a 442 Pro Moonclip, and the trigger on it was not bad at all out of the box. One of the wifes horse riding buddies has a regular 442 for her concealed carry gun, and the trigger was a little stiff to say the least. I added a Wolff Spring kit with 13 pound rebound spring to it for her, and the trigger pull is now just like my 442 Pro was from the factory. This led me to believe the factory may be using Wolff springs in the Pro Models. Just my observation, not based on any official information.
Bob
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Stainz
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Well, that's nice... but I'll second the suggestion of the 640 Pro's sibling, the 632 Pro, as an alternate 'ultimate snubnose' suggestion. The 60 Pro grips, SKU #41174 0000, are a great hand fit to my medium+ sized hands, sufficient for the recoil, handsome, and a bargain at $43 + s/t + s/h from S&W Accessories.
Sadly, as has been said, the 632 Pro, the last of the three 632's to be released, is now gone. Besides the .327 Federal Magnums, it will chamber and fire .32 H&RM, .32 S&WL, .32 S&W, and even .32 ACP, due to it's vestige of a rim. I've shot all five in mine - poof loads to HELLO! The grips are great additions for most J-frames.
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Sadly, as has been said, the 632 Pro, the last of the three 632's to be released, is now gone. Besides the .327 Federal Magnums, it will chamber and fire .32 H&RM, .32 S&WL, .32 S&W, and even .32 ACP, due to it's vestige of a rim. I've shot all five in mine - poof loads to HELLO! The grips are great additions for most J-frames.
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Thanks for that. I suspected it would be the same as other J's.
My 2012 686+ has a heavy DA pull but it's very smooth so I don't mind.
When my 640 Pro eventually arrives, I think I'll get S&W to work their magic on the trigger.
It's very easy to do yourself. Yes you can pay them or a good Smith and it will be a little better than just a spring change but not worth the money in my opinion.
If you want to do it, let me know I can guide you and provide video links, no special tools needed. I had a post on here a while back but the pictures are deleted when I cleaned out Photo Bucket. I think I still have them.
It is very easy a Caveman can do it.
Roy Odhner
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I like it. I don't think it's heavy at all, and I'd have to say it is one of the better pull weights out there. I've heard some criticisms on it in the past, but I don't share them. Personally, I think that only the Ruger LCR has it beat when it comes to off-the-shelf revolver trigger pulls. But the 640 Pro has the LCR beat when it comes to sights, so over all I'd say S&W got this revolver right - and I'd say it just might be the best snubby on the market right now.
Some of you guys might have more S&W experience than me, but I think that my 640 Pro's trigger pull is pretty nice. It's way better than my Taurus Model 85. It's also better than the Charter I used to own, and the SP101 that my buddy has.
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I'll say this about the trigger pull: The weight doesn't matter, it's the smoothness that matters. By smoothness, I mean that it doesn't stack like Colt double actions used to. As you pull the trigger, it does not get heavier or lighter during the pull. It is just perfectly consistent. The cylinder locks up like all S&W revolvers, which is to say it locks up way before the trigger lets the hammer release. If one would care to stage the trigger, pull it until the cylinder locks up and then pause, line up the sights more carefully, then pull the trigger that little bit more to let the hammer fall, it can be done with very little practice. That's for making a more precise shot a greater distance.
I can say that 9 of these revolvers functioned 100% during three days of shooting. All of them hit extremely well in the light, in lowlight, and in the dark.
Shots were being made at 25 yards on steel silhouettes smaller than a human target. The gun was easy to control for all kinds of shooting such as seated or on moving targets or on steel.
The 640 Pro Series rocked!
I can say that 9 of these revolvers functioned 100% during three days of shooting. All of them hit extremely well in the light, in lowlight, and in the dark.
Shots were being made at 25 yards on steel silhouettes smaller than a human target. The gun was easy to control for all kinds of shooting such as seated or on moving targets or on steel.
The 640 Pro Series rocked!
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