S&W 686 vs Colt Python

As a 686-1 owner, I'd have to agree sadly with the new smiths having gun locks... They need to remove the gun lock, and make the new revolvers with the same care as the old.

I think this is one of those things that can be chalked up to shooters not knowing what they lost.

You spend a lifetime shooting classic S&Ws you can feel what's been done to the new guns. Young or completely new shooters don't know that feeling, or smoothness of a classic model 27 being worked. They don't know it, so they accept the new guns with locks.

I know we can debate that until we're all blue in the face, but there is a reason people prize older guns, and will pay through the nose for older but even common guns like a 686.
 
I think this is one of those things that can be chalked up to shooters not knowing what they lost.

You spend a lifetime shooting classic S&Ws you can feel what's been done to the new guns. Young or completely new shooters don't know that feeling, or smoothness of a classic model 27 being worked. They don't know it, so they accept the new guns with locks.

I know we can debate that until we're all blue in the face, but there is a reason people prize older guns, and will pay through the nose for older but even common guns like a 686.

I count myself as a new gun owner who has not shot a newer gun, but even I knew the older pre-lock models were what I wanted. A lock is just another thing that can go wrong when I pull the trigger, I like to keep it simple as possible. Hence why I went revolver over autoloader for my first gun, less things that can go bad when I pull the trigger is what I look for.
 
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I have a Python and an L frame Smith. Both are earlier vintage. I got the Python, 6" blue, in the middle 70's because I wanted to use it for PPC matches. But the stock action was too stiff and I did not know anyone who worked on Pythons. So it sat.

Fast forward a number of years, and a gunsmith (Greg Roberts) set up shop in Santa Cruz. He could work on Pythons, and worked on mine in two stages as he learned more and more about them. When leg matches started, unfortunately towards the end of my competition career, I started using the Python for that use. But my LE work and college/academy teaching responsibilities forced me to give up PPC competitions. I only got to use the Python in one leg match, but it shot within either one or two points (forget which) of the best I had ever shot with my customized PPC revolver. I had read that Python barrels, with their tapered bores, were match grade accurate. I can attest to this.

Concurrent to this I bought a 6" L frame. I had a specific intent for this revolver, so among the customizing steps was a full match (not duty) action job.

By this time I had switched to shooting DA only, even at the 50 yard line, so I can't compare SA pulls. Comparing the Python and the L frame, the DA pulls are equally smooth, with the L frame being a little lighter. Given how well the Python shot for me in its one competition outing, that difference was immaterial, at least for me.

To further muddy the waters, my PPC competition revolver was built up on a Ruger Service Six frame. In comparing all three DA actions, all are equally smooth. Each has its own individual feel. Of the three the Python is still the heaviest of the three. The L frame Smith and the Ruger are almost too close to call as to which is lighter, with the L frame Smith perhaps being lighter by a hair. None of these differences will make any difference in your X count.

Now it comes down to the tough call. Were I in your shoes, and I wanted a Python as badly as I did at the time, I would spend the extra money, because I would not otherwise be satisfied. Sometimes we just have to pay extra to get what we want, without any objective way to justify the expense.

But if you are concerned with cost, you are looking for what will fill your needs, and you don't need the Python to ever achieve happiness, the L frame is a great revolver. As I said in another thread, I consider the L frame to be the best .357 platform Smith & Wesson have ever made. I think either are equally capable shooters.

One last point. Going on what I have read, and read on this thread, I would have no hesitation in buying a current production Python.

It is like the old racing dilemma: Speed costs money; how fast do you want to go?
 
My brother has a 6" Python and my son has a 6" 686. I have fired them both quite a bit and prefer the 686 for my hands. Both are nicely made but give me a Smith any day.
 
You know you will get hundreds of opinions here. Maybe you should target shoot both and decide for yourself that way. I agree with the arch issue on the python I shot one once and my hand didn't like it at all but S&W fit perfectly. I liked both guns looks (each wicked in different eye candy ways)-- but the Smith's better esp with the Goncalo Alves grips and it's much more fun to shoot imo. Good Luck!
 
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I had a 6" Python probably made in the 80's. Beautiful gun. I didn't like the double action pull. And as said above, the cylinder latch worked backwards.

I never handloaded for it, so never even measured the cylinder length, but if a Keith bullet seated in the case where it is intended to be had stuck out past the end of the cylinder..... that would have been another strike against it.

I enjoyed owning it, but never bonded with it like I have my Smith & Wessons.

Buy what makes you happy.
 
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I have to say I am impressed by people on a Smith and Wesson forum being as fair as they have to the Python. I too prefer the Smith, but that is what I have experience with. Like most have said, they are both phenomenal, and I too recommend trying both to figure out what works best for YOU.
 
I think my first revolver was a 4" blue Python back when the retail price was something like $125.00. Wish I still had it.

But then I bought an S&W M57, 4" and quickly learned that the Python grip shape didn't fit my hand nearly as well as the M57.

I think it's because the Colt grip shape was intended for single action bullseye shooting rather than double action defense shooting.

I owned several other Colt revolvers over the years but none presently.

I refuse to go on record as to how many S&W revolvers I presently own:)
 
I have to say I am impressed by people on a Smith and Wesson forum being as fair as they have to the Python. I too prefer the Smith, but that is what I have experience with. Like most have said, they are both phenomenal, and I too recommend trying both to figure out what works best for YOU.

I was thinking the same thing. Opinions will tend to be a little biased. I own both and have to admit I was drawn to the Python for it's looks. The full underlug with the vented rib has an awesome look to it. Pretty sure the 586 as well as the 686 was Smith's answer to the Python back in the day. I'm not a professional by any means but as far as function goes they are both fine guns. Always loved the Royal Blue finish on the Python.
 
I finally found a Colt King Cobra, 3 inch with brass bead front sight. It ALMOST went home with me. It’s a good thing my wife was with me. Someday though!!!
 
I have always thought that there is nothing more beautiful than a S&W revolver.
Colt, not so much (except the for the Python).
Colts have a funkiness to them like a Ruger DA.
Never shot a Python but I have no complaints about my smoothed and lighter sprung 686.
 
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