S&W Army 1917 with holster and army issue ammo

[MG34/bar]

Big wagon;
Don't want to argue over what to call the "safety", just don't want anyone to injure themselves if a revolver is dropped.

 

[Wiregrassguy]

Big wagon;
Don't want to argue over what to call the "safety", just don't want anyone to injure themselves if a revolver is dropped.

The probability of a 1917 or Model 1905, 4th Change M&P discharging when dropped are minuscule. The Army never documented a single instance of unexpected discharge of a dropped 1917 over two world wars. To my knowledge, only 1 discharge was documented in WWII by the Navy after a Victory fell two decks and impacted the hammer on a steel deck. That's out of a million weapons produced and used during WWII and I'm sure thousands were dropped in that 4 years.


Irrespective of this, my post was not to tout the 1917 as totally safe but simply to point out there was a hammer motion safety feature on S&W handguns since 1905. Even though that feature was augmented in 1915 with the addition of the side plate mounted hammer block on the M&Ps, the Army did not require its incorporation into the 1917s used in WWI. The Army tested every weapon design thoroughly. I have not seen the test procedures for the 1917s but it likely incorporated a test blow to the hammer to verify a loaded gun would not discharge when dropped. But, I doubt it involved dropping a gun for 2 decks onto a steel floor as pass-fail.

 

[DWalt]

Iver Johnson patented their "Hammer the Hammer" transfer bar revolver safety in 1896. And it was very similar in principle to the S&W improved hammer drop safety of 1945. I wonder why it took so long?

 

[Wiregrassguy]

I wonder why it took so long?

Simply because S&W had no reason to change what was working for them. They had decades of satisfactory performance to validate their design. But, the US Government is powerful. All it took was one instance for them to change the S&W design. S&W wanted their business and acquiesced.

 

[drcwks]

Well, I posted my Colt Army 1909 in the NON S&W section

You can do that. Include several good pictures showing as much information as possible. You could have a real prize there.

To reduce wear and tear on your holster, there are some very high quality replica flap M1909 holsters available at a reasonable cost. They will fit the Colt M1909 and M1917 and S&W M1917 revolvers interchangeably.

Well, I posted my Colt Army 1909 in the NON S&W section.

Thanks to all replies. I wasn't sure how to post more than 5 pictures at a time so had to reply to my own thread to post more pictures.
Is there an easier way or am I in trouble?

 

[Wiregrassguy]

I wasn't sure how to post more than 5 pictures at a time so had to reply to my own thread to post more pictures.
Is there an easier way or am I in trouble?

As long as you are uploading the pictures as attachments, you are limited to 5 per post. You can post more than 5 pictures in a post if you create an album here, upload your pictures to the album, then post from the album using BB code (it is provided for each picture, you just copy the link and post). If you don't want to use an album, you can upload your pictures to a hosting site like Photobucket or Flickr. You copy the link to your picture and insert it into your post using the IMG tags (click on the Insert IMG icon and paste the link).

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[sfal7418]

very nice....great looking set
Al

 

[Goony]

Here's mine, serial # 298XX. A better grade example & as an earlier gun fitted with concave stocks & having a relatively high polish finish. No holster or other accoutrements, though.

 

[OLDSTER]

Photo Credit Chris Eger, Guns.com

interesting how the revolvers are being carried. Either left hand cross draw, or "cavalry" draw".

 

[Muley Gil]

interesting how the revolvers are being carried. Either left hand cross draw, or "cavalry" draw".

Butt forward on the right hip was standard from the mid 1800s through WW I for US revolvers. Remember, the right hand was the sword hand.