S&W M&P 9mm...comparing to other makers

[Canuck44]

There are probably more Glocks being shot in IPSC and IDPA than there are M&Ps.

There are more CZ's (Shadows) shot in IPSC then there is Glocks and M&P's combined due to the minimum 5# trigger rule for Production Division. What is true is there are more Glock 34's shot in IDPA Nationals then all other pistol brands about 1 out of every three pistols in SSP Division IIRC. The M&P is the 2nd most popular pistol for SSP.

Take Care

Bob

 

[captorquewrench]

I'd like to hear more about this pet monkey! lol

Her name is Kimber and she is usually sitting on the head or shoulders of someone who works there. In a camo diaper. The monkey, not the counter guy.

The monkey is not allowed to handle the merchandise, but I think she may be more savvy about doing it than some of the big chain store gun counter people I've encountered.

While everyone else is doing Black Friday, we do Shooting Friday. We will see if I try anything new or stick with what I've got for the time being.

 

[SW CQB 45]

here was my take on black plastic nines

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-...tory-trigger-break-return-disappointment.html

 

[WR Moore]

We've issued the M&P40 since early 2006, I've had a full size M&P9 since July of that year. No problems to speak of in either version, but I really prefer the 9. If size doesn't matter, I strongly suggest going with the full size weapon. There really isn't much difference in size going to the compact. The compact does have a stronger recoil spring.

I have a professional acquaintence who's employer does Sigs. Their T&E on the 250 was not good.

On the racking the slide issue: The more recent rear sights on the M&P have a ledge that allows you to jam the sight against a handy surface and use both your hands and possibly body weight to rack the slide. It would also be possible to use the front surface of the slide muzzle above the barrel for the same purpose and in the same manner.

I'll also point out that you do need a holster (that protects the trigger) in that purse to keep various objects from operating the trigger mechanism. A local managed to kill himself in front of his family and while seated in a car by lugging a Glock around in a coat pocket without a holster.

 

[M_E_]

I was looking around for a GREAT 9mm pistol. I thought"what will have to pay? What is my life worth if this is my SHTF gun?' I never thought about the price of the weapon. If it is the most reliable & long lived gun, that's what I will get, regardless of price.

I bought an HK P30 V3. It has been torchure tested to almost 100K rounds with NO or very little maintenance. See Pistoltraining.com & do a search for the P30 there. I do have Sig Sauer P220s in 45 acp. In fact 3 of them. Nice gun but NOT in the class of the HK.

The choice is yours ~ choose wisely.

 

[Hayden]

Thanks for posting this. Im in the same boat. I like my M&P Shield and 22 but am also looking at the PX4 Compact, XDM Compact and a FS M&P 9. I really like the PX4C right now. Been reading a lot about it and it seems to be a quality gun. I have a Beretta 92F and have always been happy with it which is why Im looking at the PX4. Ive yet to do my homework on the XDM. On the other hand, I have the M&P22 that I shoot alot, so Im thinking why in the heck would I NOT go with the M&P 9. Its the same size and feel of the 22. BUT every time I go look at the PX4C........I change my mind. Uggggg I think Im going to end up with 2 new 9mm soon. LOL. I do have to say that the XDM is my last choice but it seems pretty nice too. Decisions decisions.

Hayden.

 

[fordemti]

I think my favorite pistol to shoot is my Beretta 96 Vertec. Grip feels like a 1911. And the .40 shoots soft in it. And I hate .40.

 

[M3Stuart]

I have the M&P9c and recommend it. I've shot the XD's and recommend them as well.

I also own the Beretta 92FS and recommend that too.

Couple notes;
1. I don't buy guns to 'work on' - triggers, stocks, etc to overcome the shortcomings of the stock gun. Lots of people do, heck, just check out the 1911 crowd. But I don't.
2. In my experience the Ber PX4 crowd is just nuts about their PX4s. It's somewhat bizarre and totally unlike anything I've ever seen - even amongst the pre-lock S&W revolver crowd. I don't know if that speaks well of the PX4 or not - I don't like them myself - but they sure do. Maybe it's one of those love 'em/hate 'em things....

 

[Hayden]

Im with you Stuart. I dont really buy guns thinking I want to change this and that. It is what it is and I just shoot it. Maybe I just havent been in the handgun game long enough.

Hayden.

 

[captorquewrench]

My 9mm plans are a little on hold. I have my little brother's 910 on loan. I am enjoying it for a while before I make up my mind on which one to get for myself. Like you Stuart, I don't buy to make changes. I want me to be happy with whatever I buy as-is. That is not to say I might not make a change, but I don't want to get into something planning to change right away. Who's to say I still wouldn't like something even after making changes...and be out that time and expense.

 

[Fuego]

Try the Walther PPQ.

In the gun store, have the clerk demonstrate field stripping this pistol as you would for cleaning.

 

[Badkarma 1]

I've shot just about every 9mm out there, and the ones with the easiest to work slides are the Beretta 92 series and Walther P.38/P1, and the full size HK USP 9.
The last one tends to be a soft shooter due to its recoil spring system which has a built in shock absorber. Downside as with the Beretta, the HK is a big pistol, but I find I can conceal one if I want too.
One thing, you can cock the hammer on a TDA pistol which will lessen the withdraw force needed to chamber a round, just remember to decock or on safe, or both, the pistol!
On striker fired pistols your nit only chambering a round, but also cocking the striker! That added to the "work load". Dale

 

[Jdodge]

M&P trigger pull.

I bought a 9mm a couple weeks ago. Learned this is very much a service weapon. It has a long, uneven and heavy trigger pull, and quite a bit of after travel. Interesting that the sample I tried in the store was ok. The store gunsmith says a trigger job would void the warranty. I think, in retrospect I should have just bought a Sig. Choices are to trade the M&P or pop for a $250 trigger job. Several expert friends were unable to acheive even remotely accurate results with the pistol as it is.

 

[Nevada Ed]

Top two are Glock and Berretta for military use.......
Sig is a very nice top of the line weapon and the Ruger is a top seller due to its price and over all ability to get it done.

I have been looking at 9mm's for my brother in law that thinks its time they get a gun for home defense and was looking at some models that will work for the little lady.

The Glocks 17,19 and 26 are a top seller but run around 21 ounces. The Beretta 92 runs around 33 ounces and the Ruger 95 is close with 27 ounces, which might help out with the recoil problems.
The new Ruger SRP has plastic parts, I don't mind grips but I am not a fan of plastic working parts!

Main thing is if her hand can fit around those grips with out any problems............will find out soon since it might be a christmas gift?

 

[aquafresh9]

I purchased a Sigma 9VE at a gun show last year as my first gun. A little over a month ago, I placed a 9mm M&P Full Sized Range Kit on layaway at a local gun store. I admit the range kit was an impulsive buy. With all that you get it is a good deal. This store had a customer appreciate sale and my wife is a big fan of Bersa. So while we were there I notice a Bersa Thunder 40 cal that just made me drool. However, I prefer a 9mm.

You know how sales are final when it come go firearms, but I able to exchange the M&P for a Sig 250 compact. I loved the feel of it, but two days later I took it back because Sig didn't make a left-handed version of their paddle holster. And the Blackhawk (which i love for carry) is not available for the 250C. Considering I already have a Blackhawk for my Sigma, I eventually "exchanged" it for the M&P 9c. I just fired off a few rounds today and I am very impressed and happy that I went with this gun.

 

[bp231986]

I purchased a Sigma 9VE at a gun show last year as my first gun. A little over a month ago, I placed a 9mm M&P Full Sized Range Kit on layaway at a local gun store. I admit the range kit was an impulsive buy. With all that you get it is a good deal. This store had a customer appreciate sale and my wife is a big fan of Bersa. So while we were there I notice a Bersa Thunder 40 cal that just made me drool. However, I prefer a 9mm.

You know how sales are final when it come go firearms, but I able to exchange the M&P for a Sig 250 compact. I loved the feel of it, but two days later I took it back because Sig didn't make a left-handed version of their paddle holster. And the Blackhawk (which i love for carry) is not available for the 250C. Considering I already have a Blackhawk for my Sigma, I eventually "exchanged" it for the M&P 9c. I just fired off a few rounds today and I am very impressed and happy that I went with this gun.

Sigma 9VE is a great gun. If your patient with the trigger and keep working at it and transfer to a lighter trigger you will fool yourself thinking your the best shot there ever was .

I got me a Glock 19 gen 4 two weeks ago and i havent even shot it yet...why? reason number two lol dont want to get it dirty and reason number 1 the sigma has yet to fail me once.....i trust it...a lot...i dont know when ill make the change and start packing the Glock. With that said i do trust the glock and know it will probably eventually take over the sigmas duties but not just yet.

 

[Arik]

Try the PPQ.

If the gun is residing in your purse does it matter what it looks like? Glocks are great simple guns.

Since you didnt mention price, HK USP 9 with an LEM trigger. Hammer fired gun but the LEM trigger drops the DA pull to where its very light and almost has a striker fired consistency

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[Tomkat]

Please keep in mind that so much of what is posted, based on how it is presented, is presented as fact when in reality it is opinion. Example, someone herein posted that the stock G19 trigger is far superior to the M&Ps. This is his opinion. I completely disagree. I own both and love both. I think both triggers are ****, if you are comparing with competition or target triggers. As far as self defense pistols, it is my opinion that both have very similar triggers. Keep in mind this is my opinion. It was also posted that the G19 is much more accurate. This is opinion. I for one, since I am much more accurate with the M&P and the 92fs and the PPS and the Sig M11 (228) than I am with the G19, cannot comprehend how that can be presented as fact. I have shot more rounds through my G19 than I have through the others I mentioned combined, yet, I am more accurate with each of those than I am with my G19. All of those pistols are capable of better accuracy than 99.99% of shooters are. The only reason I don't say 100% is because there is probably somebody out there who is able to hold more still than a Ransom rest can. I just haven't met him yet.

The M&P grip feels better and the interchangable grip inserts are a big plus, over the Glock. This is my opinion. It is not fact. Stock glock grips will feel better for some. Stock sights on both are about equal. That's ****. They are completely different from one another. Some will prefer one and some will prefer the other.

I know this sounds like a rant; heck, it is; but, keep in mind that most things on these forums which are stated as fact are only opinion. Keep in mind the purpose for which you seek a pistol and then consider the attributes.

Then and than do not mean the same thing. They have completely different meanings.