Tinhack
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I thought there was a federal law about marking country of origin if not made in the US. I have not seen any markings on my AR that would indicate made in China.
S&W Using Chinese Parts In Their AR's?
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Don't call me "Sport", I'm 100% made in the USA.You catch on quick there Sport.
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Don't call me "Sport", I'm 100% made in the USA.
When I read your reply this AM, I almost spit my coffee onto my monitor!
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I would LOVE to hear an example of a light duty home defense situation, VS Heavy duty???
Light duty is when my wife finds some of the receipts for this hobby; heavy duty is if she finds all of them...
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Light duty is when my wife finds some of the receipts for this hobby; heavy duty is if she finds all of them...
TRUTH!! LOL!!!!..
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Man, y'all need to grow some!
Seriously, I never had that problem because I was married to Satan's spawn for only 5 years. I do have a lot of gun shooting buddies that work out "AGREEMENTS" with their wives. I think that's only fair.
BTW, I had another weakness; HOT RODS! Now that's an expensive hobby!
Racing is even more expensive. But I have enough trouble financing my shooting Jones. There have been years I've spent $5000 on ammo plus the guns I bought. I might have to take up golf to save some money (which isn't cheap at all either). How about ping pong? I can afford a steady supply of new ping pong balls (I think anyway).
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Nope, not a percentage. It's dependent on what is essential to the item.
I'm glad you asked: Complying with the Made in USA Standard | Federal Trade Commission
Does the M&P 15 say, "Made in the USA" on it?
I should have mentioned the day a gun who owned a LGS asked me to come to the range to check a problem I was having with the Sig I bought from him (turned out to be ammo related). When I got there the gun handed me a LOADED full auto AR and said, "This baby is worth about $35,000." And I'm thinking, "You "sure" I'm not going to take your toy and leave you lying in a heap?" Of course I would never do that but that guy didn't know it. I'm not sure he cared to be honest.
At any rate we shot up at least $3000 worth of ammo THAT DAY! He actually had 3 full autos, the AR, a HK 9mm, and some .308 that resembled a BAR but with a bigger mag. It doesn't take long to rip through ammo with toys like that especially with 4 people loading mags.
I couldn't believe my luck that day. That was a bunch of fun. But it does prove just how expensive a shooting monkey on your back can be. The more money you have the faster you shoot it up.
Maybe I'll take up heroin and try to save some money. j/k I would rather have something that won't kill me so easy. Like a gun.
At any rate we shot up at least $3000 worth of ammo THAT DAY! He actually had 3 full autos, the AR, a HK 9mm, and some .308 that resembled a BAR but with a bigger mag. It doesn't take long to rip through ammo with toys like that especially with 4 people loading mags.
I couldn't believe my luck that day. That was a bunch of fun. But it does prove just how expensive a shooting monkey on your back can be. The more money you have the faster you shoot it up.
Maybe I'll take up heroin and try to save some money. j/k I would rather have something that won't kill me so easy. Like a gun.
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Hey guys, check this out! A Norinco AR-15!
For the heck of it, I GOOGLED Chinese AR-15 and this came up. Opinions?
Chinese AR-15 - Norinco CQ M311-1 - YouTube
For the heck of it, I GOOGLED Chinese AR-15 and this came up. Opinions?
Chinese AR-15 - Norinco CQ M311-1 - YouTube
Tinhack
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Yes it does. And so does the box it came in.
Rastoff
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Then it's made in the USA. A spring or two might come from outside the US, but the gun as a whole is made in the US. S&W is too large to risk breaking this law.
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HELLO EVERYONE! Look who's back from a forced vacation! 
PanzerSS is one of my shooting buddies. When we were at the range last week I overheard some S&W MP15 fanboys talking about the possibility of S&W using Chinese parts in their AR's. Since I was on a much not needed vacation, I asked him to post this thread.
I had brought my Sport I and AR-556 to the range to shoot. These guys were in the next 2 lanes over from me talking about their new MP15 rifles they had just purchased. I overheard one of them stating that his uncle or something, told him that S&W was using Chinese parts in their MP15's. Let me tell you, after a few of the other members, including me, heard this, the rumors started! But, I only told PanzerSS what I had heard at the tail end of the conversation. The range master heard the conversation and was telling the guys behind the sales desk. I know this because when we were leaving the range gunsmith asked me if I had heard any of the conversation. I told him only the last part of it. But, it was too late. The whole GS and range was talking about it.
PanzerSS is one of my shooting buddies. When we were at the range last week I overheard some S&W MP15 fanboys talking about the possibility of S&W using Chinese parts in their AR's. Since I was on a much not needed vacation, I asked him to post this thread.
I had brought my Sport I and AR-556 to the range to shoot. These guys were in the next 2 lanes over from me talking about their new MP15 rifles they had just purchased. I overheard one of them stating that his uncle or something, told him that S&W was using Chinese parts in their MP15's. Let me tell you, after a few of the other members, including me, heard this, the rumors started! But, I only told PanzerSS what I had heard at the tail end of the conversation. The range master heard the conversation and was telling the guys behind the sales desk. I know this because when we were leaving the range gunsmith asked me if I had heard any of the conversation. I told him only the last part of it. But, it was too late. The whole GS and range was talking about it.
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Welcome home ace
DR, I can always count on your responses, no matter what forum, or whatever the response is, to make me grin. Thanks man!
When you build a product to hit a price point you make a lot of sacrifices. Manufacturing is like water it always seeks its lowest point. The ignorance in this thread regarding manufacturing in China these days is way off base. China is no longer the main source of cheap low quality goods. They can produce just about anything at whatever level of quality you spec.
As others have pointed out low end manufacturing has moved down stream, just like water, to other countries.
I cannot prove it, and I can guarantee no one on this forum can prove me wrong, that S&W Sport IIs have parts in them that are not made in the USA. They might not be made in China but they are not USA origin. The "Made in the USA" propaganda garbage that our lawmakers have passed allow Sport IIs to be labeled as such.
The real question is does it matter. You are buying a low end bottom of the barrel, in terms of price point rifle, from a major manufacturer with a lifetime warranty. You get what you paid for. If you want a 100% USA made rifle buy one but its not going to cost $400- $500 OTD. Sorry rant over.
As others have pointed out low end manufacturing has moved down stream, just like water, to other countries.
I cannot prove it, and I can guarantee no one on this forum can prove me wrong, that S&W Sport IIs have parts in them that are not made in the USA. They might not be made in China but they are not USA origin. The "Made in the USA" propaganda garbage that our lawmakers have passed allow Sport IIs to be labeled as such.
The real question is does it matter. You are buying a low end bottom of the barrel, in terms of price point rifle, from a major manufacturer with a lifetime warranty. You get what you paid for. If you want a 100% USA made rifle buy one but its not going to cost $400- $500 OTD. Sorry rant over.
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