Could you send a photo of the crack? For the life of me I can't make it out in the photo on the other thread. I must be going blind!
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Sadly - Another .40 Shield Kaboom
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Could you send a photo of the crack? For the life of me I can't make it out in the photo on the other thread. I must be going blind!
Thanks.
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I understand. That's why I acknowledged that it was a fair criticism. I didn't check online. I checked my books. Mea culpa.
I also pointed out that it's a published Max load. And I have yet to see any loading book that advises one to start at max. What is max out of a publishers test rig may be over max in your firearm.
Whether it's loaded by me or a well know commercial third party you won't see me, or any other reloader I know, sticking a max load in a firearm without working up to it.
Finally, I acknowledge its possible that the actual Underwood load is not the same recipe as that published by Hodgdon and is in fact under Max pressure. I don't know.
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So far all of the kabooms with known mfg dates have been dated prior to 2013. Would you happen to know your mfg date?
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I got mine dec 2012, so yeah, prior to 2013... But it's a 9mm, any issues with those?
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Not that I have seen here.
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I'm sure that Smith and Wesson thoroughly analyzed, and has an extensive amount of data on each of these guns submitted for examination. They can likely identify powder used. If the case was included, they could identify the maker of the case, and the primer used. They can estimate the peak pressure during the event that caused the kaboom.
And yet all they're revealing is that defects in the gun did not cause the kaboom. What they're not revealing is what did cause the kaboom. They know, but they're not telling.
Regardless of whether it's the gun's fault or not, blown up guns make a gun maker look bad.
I'm betting that their legal department has told them to reveal no more than they have to.
And yet all they're revealing is that defects in the gun did not cause the kaboom. What they're not revealing is what did cause the kaboom. They know, but they're not telling.
Regardless of whether it's the gun's fault or not, blown up guns make a gun maker look bad.
I'm betting that their legal department has told them to reveal no more than they have to.
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SpinyNorman
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H.P. White Laboratories is where gun companies go.
Maybe a professionally worded email from someone asking exactly what's going on? Submitting all the cases from this forum, with pictures, showing them that this IS a problem.
I'm a huge fan of Smith, but will no longer carry my Shield. I'd rather put my trust in one of my 3rd Gens, or my Ruger SP101.
I'm a huge fan of Smith, but will no longer carry my Shield. I'd rather put my trust in one of my 3rd Gens, or my Ruger SP101.
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You are finally about caught up to where I ended up at. I also chose the shield 9mm. They screwed up the order and sent me another .40. They were still so hard to find that I accepted the gun and haven't thought much about it until reading these most recent threads. Now I am starting to wonder how much I would have to pay at a dealer to trade it in towards the 9mm I had originally asked for...
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I have relied on this forum to help educate me on several issues and have come to trust the comments of some more than others. I have been using the Shield40 as my EDC and I have put a lot of rounds through it. This thread has caused me to inspect it far more than I ever thought I would need to. Thanks to the OP for providing a calm narrative of what you have had to deal with. Once again, I'm glad you're OK.
Seldom have I seen a thread cause such a reaction. I suspect there will be many more posts. I hope they are mostly of the informative nature and Shield owners can feel confidence in their weapons. If there is a design flaw, I hope S&W will take notice and inform the public that has been so loyal to them over the years.
Seldom have I seen a thread cause such a reaction. I suspect there will be many more posts. I hope they are mostly of the informative nature and Shield owners can feel confidence in their weapons. If there is a design flaw, I hope S&W will take notice and inform the public that has been so loyal to them over the years.
Did we read the same thread? Because the one I read definitely pointed towards ammo, not the gun.
10mm full house level ammo in a single stack plastic .40.
Ammo designated by the manufacturer with a spec that doesn't exist (.40 +P) apparently so that people know they have to have a gun with a rating that doesn't exist (.40 +P) to use it.
Unfortunately, this thread is just part of the KaBoom crisis with the Shield 40. If you'll see other related threads, you'll see there have been explosions using factory range ammo. WWB and Federal.
Furthermore, you'll discover that the Shield 40 chamber is not fully supported.
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Roger..
Go back and reread 2001gmc kaboom thread.
His were reloads that someone put in a federal and sold as new. The packaging was from 1997.
The guy that claimed wwb never came back and posted any further info.
As much as you are bad mouthing the gun at least spread correct information.
So far out of the five k abooms none have been proven to be gun related.
Go back and reread 2001gmc kaboom thread.
His were reloads that someone put in a federal and sold as new. The packaging was from 1997.
The guy that claimed wwb never came back and posted any further info.
As much as you are bad mouthing the gun at least spread correct information.
So far out of the five k abooms none have been proven to be gun related.
oldIrish - thanks for your post. While I am new to the forum I soon realized its value. S&W has been a big part of my family from my childhood through today and I have owned their handguns almost exclusively for my whole life. I pray they continue to be the company I have trusted for so many years. I look forward to trying the 9mm Shield.
OK...I stand corrected then. Thank you. I'm very happy that this indeed is the case.
You are much more capable than I of managing all these ever changing details.
Thanks again for the bottom line.
This hopefully means I will keep my new Shield 40 and eventually trust my life to it.
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